Mr. LIEBELER. The next document forming a part of attachment No. 1 to
Exhibit 3001, is what, Mr. Semingsen?
Mr. SEMINGSEN. It is the duplicate or carbon copy of the original money
order receipt given to Jack Ruby at the time he filed the money order
application. The original of this receipt was given to Mr. Ruby and
found in his possession by the police at the time of his arrest.
Mr. LIEBELER. We will mark the copy which you have just described as
Exhibit 5119 on the deposition of Mr. W. W. Semingsen, Dallas, Tex.,
March 31, 1964. [Also introduced as Lane Exhibits Nos. 5118 and 5119.]
I have initialed the copy which you have just described, and ask that
you also initial it, please.
Mr. SEMINGSEN. [Initials.] I have so done.
Mr. LIEBELER. The next document forming a part of attachment No. 1 to
Exhibit 3001, is what, sir?
Mr. SEMINGSEN. This is the original money order receipt, showing the
signature of the money order payable to Karen Bennett at Fort Worth,
Tex., on November 24, 1963.
Mr. LIEBELER. I have marked the third document to which we just
referred as Exhibit 5120 on the deposition of Mr. W. W. Semingsen,
Dallas, Tex., March 31, 1964, and have initialed it. I notice that you
have already initialed that exhibit; is that not correct, Mr. Semingsen?
Mr. SEMINGSEN. Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. The next document forming a part of attachment No. 1 to
Exhibit 3001, is what, sir?
Mr. SEMINGSEN. That is a copy of the original money order message
received in Fort Worth authorizing the payment of the money to the
payee.
Mr. LIEBELER. We will mark that telegram as 5121 on the deposition of
Mr. W. W. Semingsen, Dallas, Tex., March 31, 1964. I have initialed it
and ask you, sir, to do the same. [Also introduced as Strong Exhibits
Nos. 5120 and 5121.]
Mr. SEMINGSEN. [Initials.] And I have so done.
Mr. LIEBELER. On page 1 of your memorandum, Exhibit 3001, you indicate
that a search of your records in the Dallas, Tex., office show that no
money orders payable to Lee Harvey Oswald or his aliases, O. H. Lee
or Alek James Hidell, went through that office during the period June
through November 1963; is that correct?
Mr. SEMINGSEN. That is correct.
Mr. LIEBELER. Would you tell us how you came to that conclusion?
Mr. SEMINGSEN. A search was made of our "Received money order file" for
the period mentioned by supervisory employees, and no "Received money
orders" were found. The "Received money orders" are filed in date order.
Mr. LIEBELER. Is it a fact, Mr. Semingsen, that the receiving office
of your company--in this case, Dallas, Tex.--actually keeps records
showing the receipt of money orders payable to any person who received
money orders through that office?
Mr. SEMINGSEN. Yes; that's correct.
Mr. LIEBELER. Who issued instructions that this search be made?
Mr. SEMINGSEN. I issued the instructions at the request of the FBI.
Mr. LIEBELER. Are you personally satisfied that the search was carried
out in a thorough manner and that there are in fact no records in the
possession of the Western Union Telegraph Co. that would indicate that
any money orders payable in the names mentioned above during the period
June through November 1963, exist?
Mr. SEMINGSEN. I am satisfied that a very thorough search was made by
competent supervisory personnel who are familiar with our records.
Mr. LIEBELER. And you are in fact satisfied that there are no records
in the possession of your company that would indicate that money order
telegrams had been received by Oswald under his own name or other
names during that period; is that correct?
Mr. SEMINGSEN. I am satisfied as to that.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now, also on the bottom of page 1 of your memorandum
you indicate that no telegrams were sent by Lee Harvey Oswald or by
any person under the name of the two aliases which we have mentioned,
through the Dallas, Tex., office during the period September 1 to
November 22, 1963; is that correct?
Mr. SEMINGSEN. That is correct.
Mr. LIEBELER. Would you tell us how you came to that conclusion?
Mr. SEMINGSEN. The same supervisory personnel who made the search for
the "Received money orders" made the search for any telegram sent by
Lee Harvey Oswald and alias already mentioned. The search was confined
to "Sent paid cash message" and to "Sent collect messages."
Mr. LIEBELER. Those messages are filed chronologically, is that correct?
Mr. SEMINGSEN. Those messages are filed in date order.
Mr. LIEBELER. You mentioned two categories of messages to which the
search was confined, and those were "Sent paid messages," or "Sent
collect messages"?