Mr. BALL. Did you sell automobiles from then on until----

Mr. BOGARD. Then on until just recently.

Mr. BALL. I see. When did you take this job you are on now?

Mr. BOGARD. January.

Mr. BALL. Of 1964?

Mr. BOGARD. 1964; yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. Who did you work for last fall, 1963?

Mr. BOGARD. Downtown Lincoln Mercury, 118 East Commerce, Dallas, Tex.

Mr. BALL. Shortly after the death of President Kennedy you notified the

FBI, didn't you?

Mr. BOGARD. I did not notify the FBI.

Mr. BALL. Did you notify someone that you had information?

Mr. BOGARD. Was the other salesman notified the FBI.

Mr. BALL. Who was he?

Mr. BOGARD. I forget the name.

Mr. BALL. But he notified the FBI that you had some information?

Mr. BOGARD. Yes.

Mr. BALL. And did some special agent from the Federal Bureau of

Investigation come and call on you?

Mr. BOGARD. Yes, sir; several times.

Mr. BALL. And took a statement from you?

Mr. BOGARD. Yes; I took a lie detector test.

Mr. BALL. You told him about an incident which occurred sometime before?

Mr. BOGARD. Yes, sir; week before.

Mr. BALL. Just 1 week before?

Mr. BOGARD. Yes, sir; just one--one week before--two weeks before.

Mr. BALL. About what date? Do you remember?

Mr. BOGARD. Ninth day of November, I think it was, to be exact.

Mr. BALL. 1963?

Mr. BOGARD. 1963.

Mr. BALL. What day of the week was that?

Mr. BOGARD. That was on a Saturday.

Mr. BALL. When was it? In the morning, or afternoon?

Mr. BOGARD. Afternoon.

Mr. BALL. About what time?

Mr. BOGARD. I think it was around 1:30 or 2 o'clock, as I was leaving

town shortly after I gave the demonstration in the automobile and I was

in a hurry.

Mr. BALL. Tell me just what happened there? Tell me the incident that

you remember and that you related to the Federal----

Mr. BOGARD. A gentleman walked in the door and walked up and introduced

himself to me, and tells me he wants to look at a car. I show him a car

on the showroom floor, and take him for a ride out Stemmons Expressway

and back, and he was driving at 60 to 70 miles an hour and came back to

the showroom. And I made some figures, and he told me that he wasn't

ready to buy, that he would be in a couple or 3 weeks, that he had some

money coming in. And when he finally started to leave I got his name

and wrote it on the back of one of my business cards, and never heard

from the man any more. And the day that the President was shot, when I

heard that--they had the radio on in the showroom, and when I heard the

name, that he had shot a policeman over in Oak Cliff, I pulled out some

business cards that I had wrote his name on the back on, and said, "He

won't be a prospect any more because he is going to jail," and ripped

the card up.

Mr. BALL. Threw it away?

Mr. BOGARD. Threw it away.

Mr. BALL. And when the FBI agent came to see you, the card had already

been thrown away?

Mr. BOGARD. Yes, sir; I tore it up that very same day.

Mr. BALL. This was Friday the 22d?

Mr. BOGARD. Yes, sir; the day I heard that Kennedy had been killed. I

hadn't heard that the President had been killed; just heard a policeman

had been shot and that's when I tore up the card and said, "He won't

want to buy a car."

Mr. BALL. Now, what kind of a looking man was he, or could you describe

him?

Mr. BOGARD. I can tell you the truth, I have already forgotten what he

actually looked like. I identified him as in pictures, but just to tell

you what he looked like that day, I don't remember.

Mr. BALL. You don't have a memory of it?

Mr. BOGARD. No, sir.

Mr. BALL. Was he tall, or short?

Mr. BOGARD. About medium build, I'd say.

Mr. BALL. Do you remember what name he gave you?

Mr. BOGARD. Gave me Lee Oswald.

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