Mr. HUTCHISON. During the week.
Mr. JENNER. Monday through Friday?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. When did these visits commence, if you recall?
Mr. HUTCHISON. I would say--uh--I came back from out of the country
trip in September; so it would have had to have started late September.
Mr. JENNER. And what is your recollection as to their persistence up to
and including November 22, 1963?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Well, it would have been just an occasional drop-in.
Mr. JENNER. During that period?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir; during that period. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Did you see this man at any time subsequent to November 22,
1963?
Mr. HUTCHISON. After?
Mr. JENNER. Uh-huh.
Mr. HUTCHISON. No, sir. No, sir. I sure didn't.
Mr. JENNER. I think I asked you whether he was accompanied by anyone at
anytime and you said, "No."
Mr. HUTCHISON. Only one time.
Mr. JENNER. One time?
Mr. HUTCHISON. One time. Yes. There was a Wednesday evening, he and
his wife and an elderly lady were shopping in midcounters and I was
stocking around a corner and I heard this blurt--uh--statement in
foreign tongue. And, naturally, that would arouse your curiosity to
hear somebody speaking--now, I know Spanish, and I recognize German
and I recognize French--and it wasn't any of those. So, I immediately
came around the counter and he was taking something away from his--this
woman he was with and putting it back on the shelf and talking to her
in this language.
Mr. JENNER. What was your impression as to what he was attempting to
convey to her?
Mr. HUTCHISON. That he didn't want her to have it--that he took it away
from her. He still had it--he still had it in her hand--I mean, she
had it in her hand and he took it away from her and put it back on the
shelf.
Mr. JENNER. Now, this was in the afternoon?
Mr. HUTCHISON. That was late in the evening, sir, between--between,
I would say, between 6:45 and 7:30. Because I close at 8:30 and I
recognize that it was earlier. They were buying then what you would say
a complete bill of groceries. They had several items in the basket.
Mr. JENNER. I see. You have the--I don't do much supermarket
shopping--but it's a cart with wheels?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir; a cart with wheels.
Mr. JENNER. Self-service?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Self-service. Yes, sir. All my store is self-service,
meat included; yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. All right.
You said, "This man and his wife." What led you to say that this lady
or woman was his wife?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Well, uh--later, when her picture came on television,
I--uh--I recognized her.
Mr. JENNER. Now, when you use the pronoun "her," you're now referring
to whom?
Mr. HUTCHISON. To his wife.
Mr. JENNER. Marina Oswald?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes. Marina Oswald. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. All right. Would you describe, as best you can, your
present recollection of what this man looked like?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes. He was--uh--around 5 foot 10 or 10-1/2; he had a
very, I would say--impressive look about him. It was always, to me,
uh--to her--at that time it was a glare. He was glaring at her. And,
of course, when anyone glares, their facial expressions tighten up and
you just naturally observe someone like that. And it looked like--well,
you wouldn't say a fit of anger, but a disgust or something out of the
ordinary.
Mr. JENNER. Irritation?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes; irritation would be the word. Yes. It wasn't,
"You don't need that," or--of course, I couldn't understand Russian.
I heard Russian of course when I was in the service in Seattle, but I
didn't recognize the language. But he was telling her and it was in
irritation--and he put it back on the shelf.
Mr. JENNER. By the way, I might do this at the moment--what is your age?
Mr. HUTCHISON. I'm 50.
Mr. JENNER. And are you a native of the Dallas area?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir; I was raised right down here at Waxahachie,
sir.
Mr. JENNER. And your formal education was what--elementary school, high
school?
Mr. HUTCHISON. High school; high school education, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Then, you spent some time in the service, I gather?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. I take it, you make a practice of trying to obtain a
picture in your mind of all your customers?
Mr. HUTCHISON. Of every customer; yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. And to remember them?
Mr. HUTCHISON. I love people and I love to speak to them and I address
everyone, regardless of creed, color, or anything. I always speak to
them.
Mr. JENNER. Well, that's a mark of a good salesman--apart from your
normal disposition.
Mr. HUTCHISON. Yes, sir; I like people. That's the thing. I like people.
Mr. JENNER. Do you recall how this man was attired on that occasion?
Mr. HUTCHISON. He was in slacks with just--uh--had a little
jacket--uh--I would say just a common, ordinary jacket.
Mr. JENNER. There's my raincoat hanging there [indicating]. Was it
about that weight or----