Mr. JOHNSON. The catalog is a----

Mr. RANKIN. A listing of your supplies and literature?

Mr. JOHNSON. It is a listing of literature, which is a rather old

catalog, to tell the truth about it, of the International Publishers,

which usually is included in--which includes many other pieces of

literature that if the person was interested they could purchase.

Mr. RANKIN. Will you explain the other notation?

Mr. JOHNSON. The other notation is "lit sent," which means that the

literature was sent.

Mr. RANKIN. That notation was made by you too?

Mr. JOHNSON. That is my writing too.

Mr. RANKIN. And the double line?

Mr. JOHNSON. This double line refers to this particular point of

literature, and I made that double line. That is all.

Mr. RANKIN. Does this Exhibit 1, as you received it, consist of two

handwritten pages apparently written by Lee Harvey Oswald on or before

the date they bear, together with a single printed sheet about "Hands

off Cuba"?

Mr. JOHNSON. Yes. In the letter he refers to the leaflet "like the one

enclosed," and that accompanied the letter. It is also true on the

leaflet he refers to the term "free literature."

Mr. RANKIN. Do you have any recollection of just what literature you

sent?

Mr. JOHNSON. At the time when I turned this over I included copies of

what I would assume would have been the literature at the time.

Mr. RANKIN. That is when you turned it over to the FBI?

Mr. JOHNSON. Yes; I turned over copies of the literature at the same

time. That would be the normal thing for that particular period. I

think I could think through carefully----

Mr. RANKIN. Would that be four or five pieces?

Mr. JOHNSON. Possibly more than that; about seven or eight.

Mr. RANKIN. Could you briefly describe about what they were for the

record?

Mr. JOHNSON. Well, they would be those pieces of literature which

somehow state what was being distributed around that time from our

offices, and I know it included a pamphlet "End The Cold War" by Gus

Hall; it included a pamphlet on the McCarran Act. I think it would have

included at that time another pamphlet on "Peaceful Co-existence." Then

the pamphlet that we usually sent by Elizabeth Flynn, something of the

history of the Communist Party, "Horizons of the Future." I am guessing

now, to tell the truth about it, from here on.

Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall the reference in this Exhibit 1 to honorary

membership cards in the Fair Play For Cuba?

Mr. JOHNSON. I know the reference is there; yes.

Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall whether or not the cards were enclosed or not?

Mr. JOHNSON. I really don't remember that.

Mr. RANKIN. Did you ever have any oral communications with Lee Harvey

Oswald?

Mr. JOHNSON. None whatsoever.

Mr. RANKIN. Did you ever have any oral communications with anybody on

his behalf?

Mr. JOHNSON. None whatsoever.

Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall doing anything about the honorary membership

cards, giving them to Mr. Hall and Mr. Davis, or anything like that?

Mr. JOHNSON. No. That is where I don't really recall about them. If I

would have done that, then I am sure that I would have remembered it.

Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall doing anything else about the letter, Exhibit

1, and the printed sheet attached to it beyond what you have described?

Mr. JOHNSON. I replied to it.

(Document marked Johnson Exhibit No. 2.)

Mr. RANKIN. I hand you Exhibit No. 2 on your examination and ask you

if you will identify that by stating whether or not you have seen that

copy and the original of that copy at some time.

Mr. JOHNSON. Yes. This is my reply to the letter we have just been

discussing.

Mr. RANKIN. Did you prepare that reply?

Mr. JOHNSON. I did.

Mr. RANKIN. Did you send it on or about the date it bears to Mr. Oswald?

Mr. JOHNSON. Yes; I did.

Mr. RANKIN. Would you kindly initial it.

(Witness complies.)

Mr. RANKIN. Thank you. What did you mean in Exhibit 2 by the statement

that "We do not have any organizational ties with the committee"?

Mr. JOHNSON. That is in reference to the Fair Play for Cuba Committee.

Mr. RANKIN. Yes.

Mr. JOHNSON. And there are no organizational ties between the Communist

Party and the Fair Play for Cuba Committee; and since he was writing

on that subject, I wanted to make it clear that there is no such

relationship existing, so that literature that was being sent was not

being sent from the viewpoint of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee as

such, or anything like that.

Mr. RANKIN. By "organizational ties" did you mean to distinguish

between that kind of a tie and some other kind of a tie; is that what

you were trying to do?

Mr. JOHNSON. In the sense--well, in this sense, that while not being

responsible for what that committee may do, if there were activities

being done by a committee which would have our sympathy, well, there

would be that kind of relationship; but that is not any--not where we

would assume responsibility for it, nor could we indicate what its

policy would be, or anything like that.

Mr. RANKIN. You are trying to distinguish between some official

relationship and mere sympathy?

Mr. JOHNSON. That is correct.

Mr. RANKIN. Is that it? You did recognize a sympathy or desire to

encourage the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, I take it, then?

Mr. JOHNSON. That and other similar committees, whatever they may be,

but not exclusively that.

(Document marked Johnson Exhibit No. 3.)

Mr. RANKIN. I hand you Exhibit No. 3 and ask you if you recall having

received that from Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. JOHNSON. Yes; I do.

Mr. RANKIN. Is that one of the letters that you delivered to the FBI at

the time you described?

Mr. JOHNSON. That is.

Mr. RANKIN. Did you receive it on or about the date it bears?

Mr. JOHNSON. I think so. I mean within those days; not on the day but

afterward.

Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall receiving the honorary membership card of

esteem that he says he is sending to you?

Mr. JOHNSON. Somehow I do not; at least I never kept it, and it wasn't

attached to the letter at all when I found it in the files, or anything

like that. I do not recall that.

Mr. RANKIN. Will you kindly initial Exhibit 3 too, please.

(Witness complies.)

Mr. RANKIN. There is a reference in the second paragraph of Exhibit No.

3 to a clipping. Do you recall that at all?

Mr. JOHNSON. I recall a clipping that had something to do with either a

distribution of literature or a--and I think that was it. I am not too

sure whether it also had something about an arrest or some altercation

that he had been in. I did not keep it. I did not regard it as of any

particular significance.

Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall destroying it or do you know what happened to

the clipping?

Mr. JOHNSON. Well, things like that I would just very likely throw in

the wastebasket; that's all.

Mr. RANKIN. Do you recall whether or not you responded to the Exhibit

No. 3?

Mr. JOHNSON. I responded to that together with other letters.

Mr. RANKIN. At some later date?

Mr. JOHNSON. At a later date.

Mr. RANKIN. There is a request in Exhibit 3 for additional information

or literature. Do you recall whether you sent any additional----

Mr. JOHNSON. I don't recall exactly, but I would rather imagine not,

and for a very simple reason: If I would have, I would have made a

notation on here, "Literature sent."

Mr. RANKIN. I see. I hand you what has been marked Johnson Exhibit No.

4 and ask you if you recall receiving that.

Mr. JOHNSON. Yes; I do.

Mr. RANKIN. About when compared with the date it bears? Do you remember?

Mr. JOHNSON. Within just a few days after that.

Mr. RANKIN. Will you please initial that below my initials.

(Witness complies.)

Mr. RANKIN. Is Exhibit 4 in the same condition as it was when you

received it, except the notations on it that----

Mr. JOHNSON. Yes; it is.

Mr. RANKIN. Is it one of the papers that you supplied the FBI at the

time that you referred to?

Mr. JOHNSON. That is correct.

Mr. RANKIN. And does it consist of three pages, handwritten?

Mr. JOHNSON. Right. Three full pages; yes.

Mr. RANKIN. It is dated August 28, 1963; is that correct?

Mr. JOHNSON. That's right.

Mr. RANKIN. Now, will you tell us about the notations that you put on

Exhibit 4? Describe first each one as you tell about it.

Mr. JOHNSON. The notations that I put on?

Mr. RANKIN. Yes.

Mr. JOHNSON. This one, "Fair Play is a broader comm." I put that simply

as a point to be emphasized in my reply. The two lines on page 2----

Mr. RANKIN. The top of the page?

Mr. JOHNSON. At the top of the page--as a point to consider in making

my reply. Those are the only notations that I've got on it.

Mr. RANKIN. Now, there is another notation in ink, "Arnold, please

reply," with the capital letter E, apparently.

Mr. JOHNSON. Yes.

Mr. RANKIN. Do you know who put that on?

Mr. JOHNSON. Yes.

Mr. RANKIN. Will you tell us?

Mr. JOHNSON. Elizabeth Gurley Flynn.

Mr. RANKIN. Who is she?

Mr. ABT. Mr. Rankin, I have advised Mr. Johnson respectfully to decline

to give any further information on this subject.

Mr. RANKIN. Will you tell us what you meant by that notation, that is,

"broader comm."?

Mr. JOHNSON. That the Fair Play for Cuba Committee is a committee which

is inclusive of people of varied political viewpoints and backgrounds,

and it is not what we term a--a more limited committee, which would

have people more closely associated with us, but rather includes

people who vigorously disagree with us, and in this sense is a broader

committee.

Mr. RANKIN. That is, it might consist of people who were sympathetic

with the Communist movement and also those who were in support of the

Cuban movement but not necessarily with the Communist movement? Is that

what you are saying?

Mr. JOHNSON. Yes; and who may even be vigorously opposed to the

Communist movement.

Mr. RANKIN. There is a reference to Lee Oswald trying to dissolve his

United States citizenship. Had you known of that before you received

this letter?

Mr. JOHNSON. No; I did not.

Mr. RANKIN. Did you discuss this Exhibit 4 with anyone else at the time

you prepared your answer?

Mr. JOHNSON. When Elizabeth gave it to me, just that she indicated that

I should answer it. There was really no discussion of what the answer

would be.

Mr. RANKIN. Did you give him an answer as to whether he should remain

in the background, i.e., underground?

Mr. JOHNSON. Yes; I did.

Mr. RANKIN. Did you do that in your letter?

Mr. JOHNSON. In my letter; yes.

Mr. RANKIN. There is on the last or third page, Mr. Johnson, a

notation, "Arnold," with a line above and below that. Do you know whose

handwriting that is?

Mr. JOHNSON. Elizabeth Flynn's.

Mr. RANKIN. I hand you Exhibit 4-A and ask you if that is a reply that

you prepared to Exhibit 4.

Mr. JOHNSON. It is, but it is also to a further letter (indicating).

Mr. RANKIN. I hand you Johnson Exhibit No. 6, dated September 1, 1963,

apparently in the handwriting of Lee Harvey Oswald and consisting of

a part of one page in handwriting. Is that the other letter that you

referred to, that Exhibit 4-A is a response to?

Mr. JOHNSON. Yes.

Mr. RANKIN. Did you receive Exhibit 6 on or about the date it bears?

Mr. JOHNSON. Shortly after; yes.

Mr. RANKIN. Is it in the same form?

Mr. JOHNSON. It is.

Mr. RANKIN. So by Exhibit 4-A you tried to answer both Exhibit 4 and

Exhibit 6? Is that what you mean?

Mr. JOHNSON. And the one previous to that, too. There were three

letters that come in under this.

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