CHAPTER IX. THE OLD POSTILLION

Besides Church Chartists and Positivist Chartists, there were Tory

Chartists, of whom I add an account, and a list of those among them who

were paid in the days of their hired activity. But the business of this

chapter is with the Old Postillion, the founder of the real Chartists,

who taught them and who knew them all.

Of course I mean Francis Place, who was always ready to mount and drive

the coach of the leaders of the people. Though he took that modest and

useful position, it was he who determined the route, made the map of

the country, and fixed the destination of the journey. Joseph Parkes

himself, known as "The People's Attorney-General," first addressed Place

as the "Old Postillion."* James Watson, a working-class politician (whom

Place could always trust), wrote of him at his death as the "English

Franklin,"** a very good title, having regard to the strength of the

common-sense characteristics of Place.

*Wallas's "Life of Place," p. 346. Longmans, Green & Co., 1898.

**Reasoner, No. 409, vol. xvi., March 28 1854.

One advantage (there were not many) of my imprisonment which I have

never ceased to value, was that it led to my acquaintance with Place.

From him I learned many things of great use to me in after life.

One thing he said to me was: "A man who is always running after his

character seldom has a character worth the chase." Some far-seeing

qualification was generally present in what he said. For a man who is

"always" vindicating himself becomes tiresome and ineffectual. Yet

now and then, sooner or later, and often better later then sooner, a

personal explanation may be useful. Printed actionable imputations

were made against Cobbett of which no notice was taken--so far as I

knew--which created in many minds an ineffaceable personal prejudice

against him.

Once imputations were published concerning me which justified

contradiction. It came to pass that they were certified as true by

a person of mark. Then I proposed to show that the allegations were

untrue. Whereupon I was assured it would be to my disadvantage with

many with whom I stood well, which meant that should I prove I was not

a rascal I should lose many of my best friends, which shows the curious

perplexities of personal explanation. Nevertheless, I made it.* Mr.

Place told me that in the course of his career as defender of the

people, "he had been charged with every crime known to the Newgate

Calendar save wilful murder." A needless reservation, for that would

have been believed. He let them pass, merely keeping a record of the

accusations to see if their variety included any originality. There was

one charge brought against him which to this day prejudices many against

him. The one thought to be most overwhelming was that he was a "tailor"

at Charing Cross. After that, argument against the principles he

maintained was deemed superfluous; as though following a trade of

utility disqualified a man's opinions on public affairs; while one who

did nothing, and whose life and ideas were useless to mankind, might be

listened to with deference.

*"Warpath of Opinion."

In 1849 _Chambers's Journal_ published an article on the "Reaction of

Philanthropy," against which I made vehement objection in an article in

the _Spirit of the Age_, of which _Chambers's Journal_ took, for them,

the unusual course of replying. The _Spirit of the Age_ coming under

Place's notice, he sent me the following letter, which I cite exactly as

it was expressed, in his quaint, vigorous and candid way:--

"Brompton Square,

"March 3, 1849.

"Master Holyoake,--I have read your paper of observations on a paper

written by Chambers, and dislike it very much. You assume an evil

disposition in Chambers, and have laid yourself open to the same

imputation. This dispute now consists of three of us, you and I and

Chambers--all three of us, in vulgar parlance, being philanthropists. I

have not read Chambers, but expect to find, from what you have said and

quoted, that he, like yourself, has been led by his feelings, and not by

his understanding, and has therefore written a mischievous paper. I will

read this paper and decide for myself. Knowledge is not wisdom. The most

conspicuous proof of this is the conduct of Lord Brougham. He knows

many things, more, indeed, than most men, but is altogether incapable

of combining all that relates to any one case, i.e., understanding it

thoroughly, and he therefore never exhausts any subject, as a man of a

more enlarged understanding would do. This, too, is your case. I think I

may say that not any one of your reasonings is as perfect as it ought to

be, and if I were in a condition to do so, I would make this quite plain

to you by carrying out your defective _notions_--reasonings, if you like

the term better.

"It will, I am sure, be admitted, at least as far as your thinking can

go, that neither yourself, nor Chambers, nor myself, would intentionally

write a word for the purpose of misleading, much less injuring the

working people; yet your paper must, as far as it may be known to them,

not only have that tendency, but a much worse one; that of depraving

them, by teaching them, in their public capacity, to seek revenge, to

an extent which, could it pervade the whole mass, must lead to slaughter

among the human race--the beasts of prey called mankind; for such they

have ever been since they have had existence, and such as they must

remain for an indefinite time, if not for ever. Their ever being

anything else is with me a forlorn hope, while yet, as I can do no

better, I continue in my course of life to act as if I really had a

strong hope of immense improvement for the good of all.--Yours, really

and truly,

"Francis Place."

There was value in Mr. Place's friendship. He was able to measure the

minds of those with whom he came in contact, and for those for whom he

cared he would do the service of showing to them the limits within which

they were working. It was thus he took trouble to be useful to those who

could never requite him, by putting strong, wise thoughts before them.

Elsewhere* I have related how Place on one occasion--when all London was

excited, and the Duke of Wellington indignant and repellant--went on a

deputation to him, and was dismissed with the ominous words:

*"Sixty Years," vol. i. chap. 40.

"You seem to have heads on your shoulders; take care you keep them

there." The courage of seeking this interview, at which Place was the

chief speaker, is well shown in the experience of George Petrie, who

was known to Place. Petrie was an intelligent soldier, who served

under Wellington in the Peninsular War, and was wounded in several

engagements. It often happened that the commissary was in arrears to the

troops with their rations, but when the supply arrived the arrears were

faithfully served out to the soldiers. On one of these occasions, when

some days' rations were due, Corporal Petrie was absent on duty when the

rations were served out, and on his return he found himself without his

arrears. To a half-starved soldier this was a serious disappointment,

and Petrie applied to the quartermaster, to the adjutant, and to the

captain of his company, but without effect, until he arrived at the

commanding officer of his regiment Being as unsuccessful as he had been

with the other officers, and becoming hungrier by delay, he requested

permission to make his complaint to the Commander-in-Chief (Lord

Wellington), which was granted. Upon being introduced he found his

lordship seated at a table perusing some documents. "Well," said the

Commander, without raising his eyes from the papers before him, "what

does this man want?" "He is come to appeal to your lordship about

his rations," replied the officer in attendance; whereupon the

Commander-in-Chief, without asking or permitting a single word of

explanation from the injured soldier, without discovering (as he ought

in common justice to have done) whether the soldier had a real grievance

for the redress of which he had sought the protection of the head of the

army, Wellington hurriedly exclaimed, "Take the fellow away and give him

a d----d good flogging!" Petrie, naturally indignant and a determined

man, lay in wait two nights to shoot Wellington, who escaped by taking

one night a different route, and on another being closely accompanied by

his staff. The facts were published in 1836. Petrie's appeal shows

that the Duke was not a pleasant person for Mr. Place to call upon. No

biography or book about Wellington has anything to say of his sympathy

with men who died in making his fame. He took the same care of his men,

and no more, that he did of his muskets, which it must be owned is more

than many employers do, who take more care of their machinery than of

the workers. Wellington kept his men dry, but he had no more feeling for

them than he had for their carbines. Petrie's story will be instructive

to men who shout for war without knowing what the soldier's fate is.

They were told by Tennyson "not to ask the reason why." Their business

is to die without inquiring whether they are murderers or patriots, or

what treatment will befall them in the ranks. If they do they may expect

some form of the Petrie treatment.

To Place, the experience of social reformers was as valuable as that

of politicians. Social life gives its character to public life, and the

politician is most to be valued whose measures tend to exalt the

daily life of the people. Near the end of his days Place addressed

the following (his last) letter to Robert Owen, with whom he had been

acquainted since 1813:--

"21, Brompton Square,

"March 26, 1847.

"Dear Owen,--It is some years since you and I had a conversation, and it

is time we had one. Will you call upon me, or shall I call upon you? I

go out but little, having an asthmatic complaint, which at times treats

me sadly, and from which I am never wholly free. Worst of all, I have

an affection of the brain, which will not permit me either to read or

write, and when these two complaints co-operate I am something worse

than good for nothing. You are, I conclude, in a much better state than

I am, although you are not much younger, yet the doctors tell me that

after having lived through seventy years without illness, I have

nothing to complain of in the usual circumstances of old age now that I

approximate to eighty.--

"Yours truly,

"Francis Place."

From a condition of absolute penuriousness, he raised himself to the

position of master tailor, from which, at the age of forty-five, he

was able to retire upon an income of L1,1000. Shrewd, hard-headed,

painstaking, vigilant and prudent as he was, he found, when more than

sixty, that L650 of his income was irrevocably lost He had put a large

part of his capital into house property, and left the investment of

it to an incompetent or dishonest solicitor.* The fate befel him which

afterwards befel Cobden, Thomas Bayley Potter, and some others.

Why did Place let his prudence sleep? Why, in his walks with Jeremy

Bentham,** did he not turn his steps to the sites of his investments,

and judge for himself their value? His absorbed interest in public

affairs is the only explanation. Yet he had often warned others that

such engrossment, however honourable, should be limited, and not

suffered to endanger necessary personal security.

On the death of Place in 1854, at the age of eighty-two, the _Spectator_

and the _Reasoner_ expressed a hope that a life of Place would be

written as one of supreme utility to the great class which he had served

so conspicuously.

Happily this was done, forty-four years after, in 1898,*** by Mr. Graham

Wallas. When he mentioned to me his intention of writing a biography

of Place, I told him where, in the Manuscript Department of the British

Museum, he would find virgin material in Place's own compact and

clear hand. By research there and elsewhere, Mr. Wallas has produced

a valuable and remarkable book, of which there is no similar one so

instructive to a working-class politician.

* See Wallas's "Life of Place," p. 329.

** See "Sixty Years," vol. i. p. 215.

*** "Life of Francis Place," by Graham Wallas, M.A.

Longmans, Green & Co.

The most notable of all the insurgent publicists Place inspired and

counselled, Richard Carlile, an impassable defender of a Free Press,

whom pitiless power in the darkest days of its supremacy could not

subdue, thus wrote of Place: "Though by circumstances (meaning those of

nine years' imprisonment) separated from the immediate acquaintance of

Mr. Place for several years past, I can, by experience of eighteen

and the well-founded report of forty years, pronounce him a prodigy

of useful, resolute, consistent political exertion and indefatigable

labour, which evidently continues unabated to this day.... Francis

Place, by his assistant labours and advice given to the members of the

House of Commons, has produced more effect in that House than any man

who was ever a member."*

* See article on the "Real Nobility of the Human Character,"

by A. P. (i.e., Richard Carlile) in the _Monthly Magazine_,

May 1835. p. 454.

This testimony from one who bore the heat and burden of the day with

Place, agrees with all recorded of him. Carlile wrote in 1835, and the

public work Place was engaged in then he continued until his death in

1854, at which time he was chairman of the Committee for Repealing Taxes

on Knowledge. The Old Postillion was on the saddle to the last.

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