Others, though content that treaties should be made in the mode

proposed, are averse to their being the SUPREME laws of the land. They

insist, and profess to believe, that treaties like acts of assembly,

should be repealable at pleasure. This idea seems to be new and

peculiar to this country, but new errors, as well as new truths, often

appear. These gentlemen would do well to reflect that a treaty is only

another name for a bargain, and that it would be impossible to find a

nation who would make any bargain with us, which should be binding on

them ABSOLUTELY, but on us only so long and so far as we may think

proper to be bound by it. They who make laws may, without doubt, amend

or repeal them; and it will not be disputed that they who make treaties

may alter or cancel them; but still let us not forget that treaties are

made, not by only one of the contracting parties, but by both; and

consequently, that as the consent of both was essential to their

formation at first, so must it ever afterwards be to alter or cancel

them. The proposed Constitution, therefore, has not in the least

extended the obligation of treaties. They are just as binding, and just

as far beyond the lawful reach of legislative acts now, as they will be

at any future period, or under any form of government.

However useful jealousy may be in republics, yet when like bile in the

natural, it abounds too much in the body politic, the eyes of both

become very liable to be deceived by the delusive appearances which

that malady casts on surrounding objects. From this cause, probably,

proceed the fears and apprehensions of some, that the President and

Senate may make treaties without an equal eye to the interests of all

the States. Others suspect that two thirds will oppress the remaining

third, and ask whether those gentlemen are made sufficiently

responsible for their conduct; whether, if they act corruptly, they can

be punished; and if they make disadvantageous treaties, how are we to

get rid of those treaties?

As all the States are equally represented in the Senate, and by men the

most able and the most willing to promote the interests of their

constituents, they will all have an equal degree of influence in that

body, especially while they continue to be careful in appointing proper

persons, and to insist on their punctual attendance. In proportion as

the United States assume a national form and a national character, so

will the good of the whole be more and more an object of attention, and

the government must be a weak one indeed, if it should forget that the

good of the whole can only be promoted by advancing the good of each of

the parts or members which compose the whole. It will not be in the

power of the President and Senate to make any treaties by which they

and their families and estates will not be equally bound and affected

with the rest of the community; and, having no private interests

distinct from that of the nation, they will be under no temptations to

neglect the latter.

As to corruption, the case is not supposable. He must either have been

very unfortunate in his intercourse with the world, or possess a heart

very susceptible of such impressions, who can think it probable that

the President and two thirds of the Senate will ever be capable of such

unworthy conduct. The idea is too gross and too invidious to be

entertained. But in such a case, if it should ever happen, the treaty

so obtained from us would, like all other fraudulent contracts, be null

and void by the law of nations.

With respect to their responsibility, it is difficult to conceive how

it could be increased. Every consideration that can influence the human

mind, such as honor, oaths, reputations, conscience, the love of

country, and family affections and attachments, afford security for

their fidelity. In short, as the Constitution has taken the utmost care

that they shall be men of talents and integrity, we have reason to be

persuaded that the treaties they make will be as advantageous as, all

circumstances considered, could be made; and so far as the fear of

punishment and disgrace can operate, that motive to good behavior is

amply afforded by the article on the subject of impeachments.

PUBLIUS.

THE FEDERALIST.

No. LXV.

The Powers of the Senate Continued

From the New York Packet.

Friday, March 7, 1788.

HAMILTON

To the People of the State of New York:

The remaining powers which the plan of the convention allots to the

Senate, in a distinct capacity, are comprised in their participation

with the executive in the appointment to offices, and in their judicial

character as a court for the trial of impeachments. As in the business

of appointments the executive will be the principal agent, the

provisions relating to it will most properly be discussed in the

examination of that department. We will, therefore, conclude this head

with a view of the judicial character of the Senate.

A well-constituted court for the trial of impeachments is an object not

more to be desired than difficult to be obtained in a government wholly

elective. The subjects of its jurisdiction are those offenses which

proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the

abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may

with peculiar propriety be denominated POLITICAL, as they relate

chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself. The

prosecution of them, for this reason, will seldom fail to agitate the

passions of the whole community, and to divide it into parties more or

less friendly or inimical to the accused. In many cases it will connect

itself with the pre-existing factions, and will enlist all their

animosities, partialities, influence, and interest on one side or on

the other; and in such cases there will always be the greatest danger

that the decision will be regulated more by the comparative strength of

parties, than by the real demonstrations of innocence or guilt.

The delicacy and magnitude of a trust which so deeply concerns the

political reputation and existence of every man engaged in the

administration of public affairs, speak for themselves. The difficulty

of placing it rightly, in a government resting entirely on the basis of

periodical elections, will as readily be perceived, when it is

considered that the most conspicuous characters in it will, from that

circumstance, be too often the leaders or the tools of the most cunning

or the most numerous faction, and on this account, can hardly be

expected to possess the requisite neutrality towards those whose

conduct may be the subject of scrutiny.

The convention, it appears, thought the Senate the most fit depositary

of this important trust. Those who can best discern the intrinsic

difficulty of the thing, will be least hasty in condemning that

opinion, and will be most inclined to allow due weight to the arguments

which may be supposed to have produced it.

What, it may be asked, is the true spirit of the institution itself? Is

it not designed as a method of NATIONAL INQUEST into the conduct of

public men? If this be the design of it, who can so properly be the

inquisitors for the nation as the representatives of the nation

themselves? It is not disputed that the power of originating the

inquiry, or, in other words, of preferring the impeachment, ought to be

lodged in the hands of one branch of the legislative body. Will not the

reasons which indicate the propriety of this arrangement strongly plead

for an admission of the other branch of that body to a share of the

inquiry? The model from which the idea of this institution has been

borrowed, pointed out that course to the convention. In Great Britain

it is the province of the House of Commons to prefer the impeachment,

and of the House of Lords to decide upon it. Several of the State

constitutions have followed the example. As well the latter, as the

former, seem to have regarded the practice of impeachments as a bridle

in the hands of the legislative body upon the executive servants of the

government. Is not this the true light in which it ought to be

regarded?

Where else than in the Senate could have been found a tribunal

sufficiently dignified, or sufficiently independent? What other body

would be likely to feel CONFIDENCE ENOUGH IN ITS OWN SITUATION, to

preserve, unawed and uninfluenced, the necessary impartiality between

an INDIVIDUAL accused, and the REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE, HIS

ACCUSERS?

Could the Supreme Court have been relied upon as answering this

description? It is much to be doubted, whether the members of that

tribunal would at all times be endowed with so eminent a portion of

fortitude, as would be called for in the execution of so difficult a

task; and it is still more to be doubted, whether they would possess

the degree of credit and authority, which might, on certain occasions,

be indispensable towards reconciling the people to a decision that

should happen to clash with an accusation brought by their immediate

representatives. A deficiency in the first, would be fatal to the

accused; in the last, dangerous to the public tranquillity. The hazard

in both these respects, could only be avoided, if at all, by rendering

that tribunal more numerous than would consist with a reasonable

attention to economy. The necessity of a numerous court for the trial

of impeachments, is equally dictated by the nature of the proceeding.

This can never be tied down by such strict rules, either in the

delineation of the offense by the prosecutors, or in the construction

of it by the judges, as in common cases serve to limit the discretion

of courts in favor of personal security. There will be no jury to stand

between the judges who are to pronounce the sentence of the law, and

the party who is to receive or suffer it. The awful discretion which a

court of impeachments must necessarily have, to doom to honor or to

infamy the most confidential and the most distinguished characters of

the community, forbids the commitment of the trust to a small number of

persons.

These considerations seem alone sufficient to authorize a conclusion,

that the Supreme Court would have been an improper substitute for the

Senate, as a court of impeachments. There remains a further

consideration, which will not a little strengthen this conclusion. It

is this: The punishment which may be the consequence of conviction upon

impeachment, is not to terminate the chastisement of the offender.

After having been sentenced to a perpetual ostracism from the esteem

and confidence, and honors and emoluments of his country, he will still

be liable to prosecution and punishment in the ordinary course of law.

Would it be proper that the persons who had disposed of his fame, and

his most valuable rights as a citizen in one trial, should, in another

trial, for the same offense, be also the disposers of his life and his

fortune? Would there not be the greatest reason to apprehend, that

error, in the first sentence, would be the parent of error in the

second sentence? That the strong bias of one decision would be apt to

overrule the influence of any new lights which might be brought to vary

the complexion of another decision? Those who know anything of human

nature, will not hesitate to answer these questions in the affirmative;

and will be at no loss to perceive, that by making the same persons

judges in both cases, those who might happen to be the objects of

prosecution would, in a great measure, be deprived of the double

security intended them by a double trial. The loss of life and estate

would often be virtually included in a sentence which, in its terms,

imported nothing more than dismission from a present, and

disqualification for a future, office. It may be said, that the

intervention of a jury, in the second instance, would obviate the

danger. But juries are frequently influenced by the opinions of judges.

They are sometimes induced to find special verdicts, which refer the

main question to the decision of the court. Who would be willing to

stake his life and his estate upon the verdict of a jury acting under

the auspices of judges who had predetermined his guilt?

Would it have been an improvement of the plan, to have united the

Supreme Court with the Senate, in the formation of the court of

impeachments? This union would certainly have been attended with

several advantages; but would they not have been overbalanced by the

signal disadvantage, already stated, arising from the agency of the

same judges in the double prosecution to which the offender would be

liable? To a certain extent, the benefits of that union will be

obtained from making the chief justice of the Supreme Court the

president of the court of impeachments, as is proposed to be done in

the plan of the convention; while the inconveniences of an entire

incorporation of the former into the latter will be substantially

avoided. This was perhaps the prudent mean. I forbear to remark upon

the additional pretext for clamor against the judiciary, which so

considerable an augmentation of its authority would have afforded.

Would it have been desirable to have composed the court for the trial

of impeachments, of persons wholly distinct from the other departments

of the government? There are weighty arguments, as well against, as in

favor of, such a plan. To some minds it will not appear a trivial

objection, that it could tend to increase the complexity of the

political machine, and to add a new spring to the government, the

utility of which would at best be questionable. But an objection which

will not be thought by any unworthy of attention, is this: a court

formed upon such a plan, would either be attended with a heavy expense,

or might in practice be subject to a variety of casualties and

inconveniences. It must either consist of permanent officers,

stationary at the seat of government, and of course entitled to fixed

and regular stipends, or of certain officers of the State governments

to be called upon whenever an impeachment was actually depending. It

will not be easy to imagine any third mode materially different, which

could rationally be proposed. As the court, for reasons already given,

ought to be numerous, the first scheme will be reprobated by every man

who can compare the extent of the public wants with the means of

supplying them. The second will be espoused with caution by those who

will seriously consider the difficulty of collecting men dispersed over

the whole Union; the injury to the innocent, from the procrastinated

determination of the charges which might be brought against them; the

advantage to the guilty, from the opportunities which delay would

afford to intrigue and corruption; and in some cases the detriment to

the State, from the prolonged inaction of men whose firm and faithful

execution of their duty might have exposed them to the persecution of

an intemperate or designing majority in the House of Representatives.

Though this latter supposition may seem harsh, and might not be likely

often to be verified, yet it ought not to be forgotten that the demon

of faction will, at certain seasons, extend his sceptre over all

numerous bodies of men.

But though one or the other of the substitutes which have been

examined, or some other that might be devised, should be thought

preferable to the plan in this respect, reported by the convention, it

will not follow that the Constitution ought for this reason to be

rejected. If mankind were to resolve to agree in no institution of

government, until every part of it had been adjusted to the most exact

standard of perfection, society would soon become a general scene of

anarchy, and the world a desert. Where is the standard of perfection to

be found? Who will undertake to unite the discordant opinions of a

whole community, in the same judgment of it; and to prevail upon one

conceited projector to renounce his INFALLIBLE criterion for the

FALLIBLE criterion of his more CONCEITED NEIGHBOR? To answer the

purpose of the adversaries of the Constitution, they ought to prove,

not merely that particular provisions in it are not the best which

might have been imagined, but that the plan upon the whole is bad and

pernicious.

PUBLIUS.

THE FEDERALIST.

No. LXVI.

Objections to the Power of the Senate To Set as a Court for

Impeachments Further Considered

From the New York Packet.

Tuesday, March 11, 1788.

HAMILTON

To the People of the State of New York:

A review of the principal objections that have appeared against the

proposed court for the trial of impeachments, will not improbably

eradicate the remains of any unfavorable impressions which may still

exist in regard to this matter.

The FIRST of these objections is, that the provision in question

confounds legislative and judiciary authorities in the same body, in

violation of that important and wellestablished maxim which requires a

separation between the different departments of power. The true meaning

of this maxim has been discussed and ascertained in another place, and

has been shown to be entirely compatible with a partial intermixture of

those departments for special purposes, preserving them, in the main,

distinct and unconnected. This partial intermixture is even, in some

cases, not only proper but necessary to the mutual defense of the

several members of the government against each other. An absolute or

qualified negative in the executive upon the acts of the legislative

body, is admitted, by the ablest adepts in political science, to be an

indispensable barrier against the encroachments of the latter upon the

former. And it may, perhaps, with no less reason be contended, that the

powers relating to impeachments are, as before intimated, an essential

check in the hands of that body upon the encroachments of the

executive. The division of them between the two branches of the

legislature, assigning to one the right of accusing, to the other the

right of judging, avoids the inconvenience of making the same persons

both accusers and judges; and guards against the danger of persecution,

from the prevalency of a factious spirit in either of those branches.

As the concurrence of two thirds of the Senate will be requisite to a

condemnation, the security to innocence, from this additional

circumstance, will be as complete as itself can desire.

It is curious to observe, with what vehemence this part of the plan is

assailed, on the principle here taken notice of, by men who profess to

admire, without exception, the constitution of this State; while that

constitution makes the Senate, together with the chancellor and judges

of the Supreme Court, not only a court of impeachments, but the highest

judicatory in the State, in all causes, civil and criminal. The

proportion, in point of numbers, of the chancellor and judges to the

senators, is so inconsiderable, that the judiciary authority of New

York, in the last resort, may, with truth, be said to reside in its

Senate. If the plan of the convention be, in this respect, chargeable

with a departure from the celebrated maxim which has been so often

mentioned, and seems to be so little understood, how much more culpable

must be the constitution of New York?[1]

A SECOND objection to the Senate, as a court of impeachments, is, that

it contributes to an undue accumulation of power in that body, tending

to give to the government a countenance too aristocratic. The Senate,

it is observed, is to have concurrent authority with the Executive in

the formation of treaties and in the appointment to offices: if, say

the objectors, to these prerogatives is added that of deciding in all

cases of impeachment, it will give a decided predominancy to senatorial

influence. To an objection so little precise in itself, it is not easy

to find a very precise answer. Where is the measure or criterion to

which we can appeal, for determining what will give the Senate too

much, too little, or barely the proper degree of influence? Will it not

be more safe, as well as more simple, to dismiss such vague and

uncertain calculations, to examine each power by itself, and to decide,

on general principles, where it may be deposited with most advantage

and least inconvenience?

If we take this course, it will lead to a more intelligible, if not to

a more certain result. The disposition of the power of making treaties,

which has obtained in the plan of the convention, will, then, if I

mistake not, appear to be fully justified by the considerations stated

in a former number, and by others which will occur under the next head

of our inquiries. The expediency of the junction of the Senate with the

Executive, in the power of appointing to offices, will, I trust, be

placed in a light not less satisfactory, in the disquisitions under the

same head. And I flatter myself the observations in my last paper must

have gone no inconsiderable way towards proving that it was not easy,

if practicable, to find a more fit receptacle for the power of

determining impeachments, than that which has been chosen. If this be

truly the case, the hypothetical dread of the too great weight of the

Senate ought to be discarded from our reasonings.

But this hypothesis, such as it is, has already been refuted in the

remarks applied to the duration in office prescribed for the senators.

It was by them shown, as well on the credit of historical examples, as

from the reason of the thing, that the most POPULAR branch of every

government, partaking of the republican genius, by being generally the

favorite of the people, will be as generally a full match, if not an

overmatch, for every other member of the Government.

But independent of this most active and operative principle, to secure

the equilibrium of the national House of Representatives, the plan of

the convention has provided in its favor several important

counterpoises to the additional authorities to be conferred upon the

Senate. The exclusive privilege of originating money bills will belong

to the House of Representatives. The same house will possess the sole

right of instituting impeachments: is not this a complete

counterbalance to that of determining them? The same house will be the

umpire in all elections of the President, which do not unite the

suffrages of a majority of the whole number of electors; a case which

it cannot be doubted will sometimes, if not frequently, happen. The

constant possibility of the thing must be a fruitful source of

influence to that body. The more it is contemplated, the more important

will appear this ultimate though contingent power, of deciding the

competitions of the most illustrious citizens of the Union, for the

first office in it. It would not perhaps be rash to predict, that as a

mean of influence it will be found to outweigh all the peculiar

attributes of the Senate.

A THIRD objection to the Senate as a court of impeachments, is drawn

from the agency they are to have in the appointments to office. It is

imagined that they would be too indulgent judges of the conduct of men,

in whose official creation they had participated. The principle of this

objection would condemn a practice, which is to be seen in all the

State governments, if not in all the governments with which we are

acquainted: I mean that of rendering those who hold offices during

pleasure, dependent on the pleasure of those who appoint them. With

equal plausibility might it be alleged in this case, that the

favoritism of the latter would always be an asylum for the misbehavior

of the former. But that practice, in contradiction to this principle,

proceeds upon the presumption, that the responsibility of those who

appoint, for the fitness and competency of the persons on whom they

bestow their choice, and the interest they will have in the respectable

and prosperous administration of affairs, will inspire a sufficient

disposition to dismiss from a share in it all such who, by their

conduct, shall have proved themselves unworthy of the confidence

reposed in them. Though facts may not always correspond with this

presumption, yet if it be, in the main, just, it must destroy the

supposition that the Senate, who will merely sanction the choice of the

Executive, should feel a bias, towards the objects of that choice,

strong enough to blind them to the evidences of guilt so extraordinary,

as to have induced the representatives of the nation to become its

accusers.

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