MR. W. W. GRENVILLE TO THE MARQUIS OF BUCKINGHAM.

Whitehall, Feb. 21st, 1789.

MY DEAR BROTHER,

I have little to add to Lord Sydney's letter. Your refusal to

transmit the Address is generally approved here; and I have the

pleasure of seeing daily proofs that the Opposition in this country

are ashamed of what they and their friends have done in Ireland.

Your answer, I think, much improved by the transposition,

especially as it avoids the necessity of your submitting any advice

to His Royal Highness, which might have been said to be an

officious interference, as you are not in any situation which calls

upon you to advise _him_.

You will hear with as much pleasure as I write it, that the King

was not at all agitated by his interview with the Chancellor, and

was perfectly composed and collected all yesterday evening. The

accounts this morning are as good as can be.

Their Royal Highnesses the Prince of Wales and Duke of York have

been once or twice at Kew, to desire to be admitted _to_ see him,

which you will naturally suppose was not permitted. This morning

they thought proper to make a formal demand that they should be

allowed to see him; or if not, insisting that the physicians should

give in writing the reasons for their refusal. In consequence of

this, Warren and Gisborne, who were there this morning, sent Willis

in to the King, to acquaint him that the two Princes wished to see

him. Willis returned with a message to them from the King, thanking

them for their inquiries, but wishing to put off the seeing them

till he had seen Thurlow again, which he is to do to-morrow. This

was reduced to writing, and sent to them; how it will be received I

know not, but it has completely defeated the avowed object of the

visit, which was to prejudice his mind against the measures which

have been taken.

There seems now every reason to hope that by the 6th or 7th of

March he will be sufficiently recovered, or rather will have been

recovered a sufficient time to make it proper to take his commands

for opening the Parliament. If not, you will see by the despatch

the nature of the measures which we have in contemplation; and I

can have no doubt of your agreeing, that no principle which we have

ever maintained would require or even justify us in putting the

Prince of Wales in such a situation as to enable him to overturn

the whole system of the King's Government, the King being all the

while perfectly well, conscious of what is going forward, and

restrained from acting himself only by the apprehension of a

relapse.

You will already have seen and considered what I have said to you

on the subject of remaining. You cannot form to yourself an idea

how universally it is the wish of all who wish for your own

personal credit, and of all who are interested for the credit of

the party, that you should remain in Ireland so long as to make it

appear that you have thoroughly weathered the storm. Your session

need be but very short indeed. The uncertain state of everything

since November last, is an ample apology for not being prepared

with other business, and for deferring it till another year. But

the leaving it in the middle, would convey the impression that all

this difficulty had been personal to yourself, and that you were

the only obstacle to the success of English Government in Ireland.

Directly the reverse of this proposition is, I am convinced, the

truth; but it is a truth which it is of the utmost importance to

yourself to establish in the general and public opinion in this

country. You have great advantages for this, from the general

disposition which is prevalent here to feel the strongest

indignation at the conduct which your opponents have held. I must

own it would be a severe mortification to me to see you forego this

opportunity.

You know the only motive which I can have for pressing this so

much, and how much violence I do to my own feelings when I urge

anything which may delay my seeing you again.

Ever most affectionately yours,

W. W. G.

Lord Bulkeley, in a letter dated the 24th, describes one of these

interviews of the Princes with His Majesty. The general impressions

which prevailed respecting the conduct and dispositions of their Royal

Highnesses in this crisis, may be gathered from these unreserved

revelations.

The accounts from Kew this morning are as good as possible (but I

have not got the precise words); notwithstanding, the Princes were

with him half an hour yesterday, which is a proof that his

miraculous recovery is not to be shaken. Lord Winchelsea, who was

at Kew the whole time, told me that the Prince and Duke of York,

though appointed at one, did not arrive till half-past three; and

that when they came out, they told Colonel Digby that they were

delighted with the King's being so well, and remarked that two

things in the half-hour's conference which they had with him had

struck them very forcibly: that he had observed to them how much

better he played at picquet than Mr. Charles Hawkins, and that

since he had been ill he had rubbed up all his Latin; and these

facts, which are facts, I expect to hear magnified by the Carlton

House runners into instances of insanity.

The Princes entered the King's apartment without any emotion, and

came out of it with none visible in their countenances. The Queen

only was present, and the conference lasted half an hour. I have

not heard as yet; but conclude they were both rioting, ----, and

drunk last night at the masquerade, as they were at one a week ago;

the truth is, that they are quite desperate, and endeavour to

drown their cares, disappointments, and internal chagrin in wine

and dissipation.

The Duke of York plays much at tennis, and has a score with all the

blacklegs; and in the public court tells them they shall all be

paid as soon as his father can settle with him some Osnaburg money

which he owes him.

* * * * *

The Princes give out, that as soon as they have an opportunity of

explaining their conduct to the King, they are sure he will approve

of it as much as he will reprobate that of Mr. Pitt's.

"It is now almost certain," says Mr. Grenville on the 23rd, "that we

shall not pass the Regency Bill, and consequently that the Government

will not be changed." In the same letter he refers to a suggestion of

Lord Buckingham's, that the answer declining to transmit the Irish

Address should be laid before His Royal Highness.

On conversing with Pitt, we were both clearly of opinion, that no

communication ought to be made to H.R.H. of what has passed in

Ireland, as we have uniformly considered him as not entitled, under

the present circumstances, to any communication of any part of the

business of Government. Nothing has accordingly been ever laid

before him, except the measures which Pitt intended to _bring

forward_ respecting him personally; but that principle certainly

does not extend to such a communication as had been proposed in

your separate letter, which I have for that reason not sent to Lord

Sydney.

In so absurd a light, indeed, did the whole proceedings of the Irish

Parliament appear to Ministers, that Mr. Grenville thought it highly

improbable that the Irish Ambassadors, as they were called, would

venture to present the Address in the improved state of the King's

health, or that His Royal Highness would be advised to accept it. They

_did_ present it notwithstanding, and their reception is thus reported

by Mr. Grenville:

Your Ambassadors are arrived; and presented their Address yesterday

evening to the Prince. The answer which, as I understand, he gave

them, was, that he was highly gratified with the expressions of

_loyalty to the King_, which the Address contained; but that with

respect to the rest he could not give them an answer before

Tuesday, on which day he desired to see them again. I take it for

granted, he will then say, that the King being recovered, all

consideration of a Regency is out of the question.

People in general here do not seem disposed to consider this

transaction in any other than a ludicrous manner, and as the most

absurd and ridiculous farce. It is impossible to describe how much

and how universally their Excellencies are laughed at. One of them

came into an assembly last night, and was received with a general

roar of laughter. I did not think they would have been so foolish

as to present it. The Prince and his friends must have been a good

deal embarrassed what answer to give them; and I do not think they

have succeeded remarkably well, if the account of the answer, such

as I have stated it, is true.

It was on the day after the Princes' interview that Mr. Pitt had his

first audience of the King since his illness; no Minister, except the

Chancellor, having hitherto been admitted to see His Majesty, on account

of the jealousies with which every step they took throughout this

painful interval was watched and turned to account.

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