AT MUSIC HALL, CINCINNATI, OHIO, ON THE EVENING OF SEPTEMBER 20, 1902

_Mr. Mayor, and you, my Fellow-Americans_:

I shall ask your attention to what I say to-night, because I intend

to make a perfectly serious argument to you, and I shall be obliged

if you will remain as still as possible; and I ask that those at

the very back will remember that if they talk or make a noise it

interferes with the hearing of the rest. I intend to speak to you

on a serious subject and to make an argument as the Chief Executive

of a nation, who is the President of all the people, without regard

to party, without regard to section. I intend to make to you an

argument from the standpoint simply of one American talking to his

fellow-Americans upon one of the great subjects of interest to all

alike; and that subject is what are commonly known as trusts. The word

is used very loosely and almost always with technical inaccuracy.

The average man, however, when he speaks of the trusts means rather

vaguely all of the very big corporations, the growth of which has been

so signal a feature of our modern civilization, and especially those

big corporations which, though organized in one State, do business in

several States, and often have a tendency to monopoly.

The whole subject of the trusts is of vital concern to us, because it

presents one, and perhaps the most conspicuous, of the many problems

forced upon our attention by the tremendous industrial development

which has taken place during the last century, a development which

is occurring in all civilized countries, notably in our own. There

have been many factors responsible for bringing about these changed

conditions. Of these, steam and electricity are the chief. The

extraordinary changes in the methods of transportation of merchandise

and of transmission of news have rendered not only possible, but

inevitable, the immense increase in the rate of growth of our great

industrial centres—that is, of our great cities. I want you to bring

home to yourselves that fact. When Cincinnati was founded news could

be transmitted and merchandise carried exactly as has been the

case in the days of the Roman Empire. You had here on your river

the flat-boat, you had on the ocean the sailing-ship, you had the

pack-train, you had the wagon, and every one of the four was known

when Babylon fell. The change in the last hundred years has been

greater by far than the changes in all the preceding three thousand.

Those are the facts. Because of them have resulted the specialization

of industries, and the unexampled opportunities offered for the

employment of huge amounts of capital, and therefore for the rise

in the business world of those master-minds through whom alone it

is possible for such vast amounts of capital to be employed with

profit. It matters very little whether we like these new conditions

or whether we dislike them; whether we like the creation of these new

opportunities or not. Many admirable qualities which were developed

in the older, simpler, less progressive life have tended to atrophy

under our rather feverish, high-pressure, complex life of to-day.

But our likes and dislikes have nothing to do with the matter. The

new conditions are here. You can’t bring back the old days of the

canalboat and stagecoach if you wish. The steamboat and the railroad

are here. The new forces have produced both good and evil. We can not

get rid of them—even if it were not undesirable to get rid of them;

and our instant duty is to try to accommodate our social, economic and

legislative life to them, and to frame a system of law and conduct

under which we shall get out of them the utmost possible benefit and

the least possible amount of harm. It is foolish to pride ourselves

upon our progress and prosperity, upon our commanding position in the

international industrial world, and at the same time have nothing but

denunciation for the men to whose commanding position we in part owe

this very progress and prosperity, this commanding position.

Whenever great social or industrial changes take place, no matter

how much good there may be to them, there is sure to be some evil;

and it usually takes mankind a number of years and a good deal of

experimenting before they find the right ways in which so far as

possible to control the new evil, without at the same time nullifying

the new good. I am stating facts so obvious that if each one of

you will think them over you will think them trite, but if you read

or listen to some of the arguments advanced, you will come to the

conclusion that there is need of learning these trite truths. In these

circumstances the effort to bring the new tendencies to a standstill

is always futile and generally mischievous; but it is possible

somewhat to develop them aright. Law can to a degree guide, protect

and control industrial development, but it can never cause it, or play

more than a subordinate part in its healthy development—unfortunately

it is easy enough by bad laws to bring it to an almost complete stop.

In dealing with the big corporations which we call trusts, we must

resolutely purpose to proceed by evolution and not revolution. We

wish to face the facts, declining to have our vision blinded either

by the folly of those who say there are no evils, or by the more

dangerous folly of those who either see, or make believe that they

see, nothing but evil in all the existing system, and who if given

their way would destroy the evil by the simple process of bringing

ruin and disaster to the entire country. The evils attendant upon

over-capitalization alone are, in my judgment, sufficient to warrant

a far closer supervision and control than now exists over the great

corporations. Wherever a substantial monopoly can be shown to exist

we should certainly try our utmost to devise an expedient by which it

can be controlled. Doubtless some of the evils existing in or because

of the great corporations can not be cured by any legislation which

has yet been proposed, and doubtless others, which have really been

incident to the sudden development in the formation of corporations

of all kinds, will in the end cure themselves. But there will remain

a certain number which can be cured if we decide that by the power of

the Government they are to be cured. The surest way to prevent the

possibility of curing any of them is to approach the subject in a

spirit of violent rancor, complicated with total ignorance of business

interests and fundamental incapacity or unwillingness to understand

the limitations upon all law-making bodies. No problem, and least of

all so difficult a problem as this, can be solved if the qualities

brought to its solution are panic, fear, envy, hatred, and ignorance.

There can exist in a free republic no man more wicked, no man more

dangerous to the people, than he who would arouse these feelings in

the hope that they would redound to his own political advantage.

Corporations that are handled honestly and fairly, so far from being

an evil, are a natural business evolution and make for the general

prosperity of our land. We do not wish to destroy corporations, but we

do wish to make them subserve the public good. All individuals, rich

or poor, private or corporate, must be subject to the law of the land;

and the government will hold them to a rigid obedience thereof. The

biggest corporation, like the humblest private citizen, must be held

to strict compliance with the will of the people as expressed in the

fundamental law. The rich man who does not see that this is in his

interest is indeed short-sighted. When we make him obey the law we

ensure for him the absolute protection of the law.

The savings banks show what can be done in the way of genuinely

beneficent work by large corporations when intelligently administered

and supervised. They now hold over twenty-six hundred millions of the

people’s money and pay annually about one hundred millions of interest

or profit to their depositors. There is no talk of danger from these

corporations; yet they possess great power, holding over three times

the amount of our present national debt, more than all the currency,

gold, silver, greenbacks, etc., in circulation in the United States.

The chief reason for there being no talk of danger from them is that

they are on the whole faithfully administered for the benefit of all,

under wise laws which require frequent and full publication of their

condition, and which prescribe certain needful regulations with which

they have to comply, while at the same time giving full scope for the

business enterprise of their managers within these limits.

Now of course savings banks are as highly specialized a class of

corporations as railroads, and we can not force too far the analogy

with other corporations; but there are certain conditions which I

think we can lay down as indispensable to the proper treatment of all

corporations which from their size have become important factors in

the social development of the community.

Before speaking, however, of what can be done by way of remedy let

me say a word or two as to certain proposed remedies which, in my

judgment, would be ineffective or mischievous. The first thing to

remember is that if we are to accomplish any good at all it must be

by resolutely keeping in mind the intention to do away with any evils

in the conduct of big corporations, while steadfastly refusing to

assent to indiscriminate assault upon all forms of corporate capital

as such. The line of demarcation we draw must always be on conduct,

not upon wealth; our objection to any given corporation must be, not

that it is big, but that it behaves badly. Perfectly simple again, my

friends, but not always heeded by some of those who would strive to

teach us how to act toward big corporations. Treat the head of the

corporation as you would treat all other men. If he does well stand

by him. You will occasionally find the head of a big corporation who

objects to that treatment; very good, apply it all the more carefully.

Remember, after all, that he who objects because he is the head of a

big corporation to being treated like any one else is only guilty of

the same sin as the man who wishes him treated worse than any one else

because he is the head of a big corporation. Demagogic denunciation of

wealth is never wholesome and is generally dangerous; and not a few

of the proposed methods of curbing the trusts are dangerous chiefly

because all insincere advocacy of the impossible is dangerous. It is

an unhealthy thing for a community when the appeal is made to follow

a course which those who make the appeal either do know, or ought to

know, can not be followed; and which, if followed, would result in

disaster to everybody. Loose talk about destroying monopoly out of

hand without a hint as to how the monopoly should even be defined

offers a case in point.

Nor can we afford to tolerate any proposal which will strike at the

so-called trusts only by striking at the general well-being. We are

now enjoying a period of great prosperity. The prosperity is generally

diffused through all sections and through all classes. Doubtless there

are some individuals who do not get enough of it, and there are others

who get too much. That is simply another way of saying that the wisdom

of mankind is finite; and that even the best human system does not

work perfectly. You don’t have to take my word for that. Look back

just nine years. In 1893 nobody was concerned in downing the trusts.

Everybody was concerned in trying to get up himself. The men who

propose to get rid of the evils of the trusts by measures which would

do away with the general well-being, advocate a policy which would

not only be a damage to the community as a whole, but which would

defeat its own professed object. If we are forced to the alternative

of choosing either a system under which most of us prosper somewhat,

though a few of us prosper too much, or else a system under which

no one prospers enough, of course we will choose the former. If the

policy advocated is so revolutionary and destructive as to involve

the whole community in the crash of common disaster, it is as certain

as anything can be that when the disaster has occurred all efforts

to regulate the trusts will cease, and that the one aim will be to

restore prosperity.

A remedy much advocated at the moment is to take off the tariff

from all articles which are made by trusts. To do this it will be

necessary first to define trusts. The language commonly used by the

advocates of the method implies that they mean all articles made by

large corporations, and that the changes in tariff are to be made

with punitive intent toward these large corporations. Of course if

the tariff is to be changed in order to punish them, it should be

changed so as to punish those that do ill, not merely those that are

prosperous. It would be neither just nor expedient to punish the big

corporations as big corporations; what we wish to do is to protect

the people from any evil that may grow out of their existence or

maladministration. Some of those corporations do well and others do

ill. If in any case the tariff is found to foster a monopoly which

does ill, of course no protectionist would object to a modification

of the tariff sufficient to remedy the evil. But in very few cases

does the so-called trust really monopolize the market. Take any very

big corporation—I could mention them by the score—which controls,

say, something in the neighborhood of half of the products of a given

industry. It is the kind of corporation that is always spoken of

as a trust. Surely in rearranging the schedules affecting such a

corporation it would be necessary to consider the interests of its

smaller competitors which control the remaining part, and which,

being weaker, would suffer most from any tariff designed to punish

all the producers; for, of course, the tariff must be made light or

heavy for big and little producers alike. Moreover, such a corporation

necessarily employs very many thousands, often very many tens of

thousands of workmen, and the minute we proceeded from denunciation

to action it would be necessary to consider the interests of these

workmen. Furthermore, the products of many trusts are unprotected, and

would be entirely unaffected by any change in the tariff, or at most

very slightly so. The Standard Oil Company offers a case in point;

and the corporations which control the anthracite coal output offer

another—for there is no duty whatever on anthracite coal.

I am not now discussing the question of the tariff as such; whether

from the standpoint of the fundamental difference between those who

believe in a protective tariff and those who believe in free trade; or

from the standpoint of those who, while they believe in a protective

tariff, feel that there could be a rearrangement of our schedules,

either by direct legislation or by reciprocity treaties, which would

result in enlarging our markets; nor yet from the standpoint of those

who feel that stability of economic policy is at the moment our prime

economic need, and that the benefits to be derived from any change

in schedules would not compensate for the damage to business caused

by the widespread agitation which would follow any attempted general

revision of the tariff at this moment. Without regard to the wisdom

of any one of those three positions it remains true that the real

evils connected with the trusts can not be remedied by any change

in the tariff laws. The trusts can be damaged by depriving them of

the benefits of a protective tariff, only on condition of damaging

all their smaller competitors, and all the wage-workers employed in

the industry. This point is very important, and it is desirable to

avoid any misunderstanding concerning it. I am not now considering

whether or not, on grounds totally unconnected with the trusts, it

would be well to lower the duties on various schedules, either by

direct legislation or by legislation or treaties designed to secure

as an offset reciprocal advantages from the nations with which we

trade. My point is that changes in the tariff would have little

appreciable effect on the trusts save as they shared in the general

harm or good proceeding from such changes. No tariff change would help

one of our smaller corporations, or one of our private individuals

in business, still less one of our wage-workers, as against a large

corporation in the same business; on the contrary, if it bore heavily

on the large corporation it would inevitably be felt still more by

that corporation’s weaker rivals, while any injurious result would

of necessity be shared by both the employer and the employed in the

business concerned. The immediate introduction of substantial free

trade in all articles manufactured by trusts, that is, by the largest

and most successful corporations, would not affect some of the most

powerful of our business combinations in the least, save by the damage

done to the general business welfare of the country; others would

undoubtedly be seriously affected, but much less so than their weaker

rivals, while the loss would be divided between the capitalists and

the laborers; and after the years of panic and distress had been

lived through, and some return to prosperity had occurred, even

though all were on a lower plane of prosperity than before, the

relative difference between the trusts and their rivals would remain

as marked as ever. In other words, the trust, or big corporation,

would have suffered relatively to, and in the interest of, its foreign

competitor; but its relative position toward its American competitors

would probably be improved; little would have been done toward cutting

out or minimizing the evils in the trusts; nothing toward securing

adequate control and regulation of the large modern corporations. In

other words, the question of regulating the trusts with a view to

minimizing or abolishing the evils existent in them is separate and

apart from the question of tariff revision.

You must face the fact that only harm will come from a proposition

to attack the so-called trusts in a vindictive spirit by measures

conceived solely with a desire of hurting them, without regard as to

whether or not discrimination should be made between the good and

evil in them, and without even any regard as to whether a necessary

sequence of the action would be the hurting of other interests.

The adoption of such a policy would mean temporary damage to the

trusts, because it would mean temporary damage to all of our business

interests; but the effect would be only temporary, for exactly as the

damage affected all alike, good and bad, so the reaction would affect

all alike, good and bad. The necessary supervision and control, in

which I firmly believe as the only method of eliminating the real

evils of the trusts, must come through wisely and cautiously framed

legislation, which shall aim in the first place to give definite

control to some sovereign over the great corporations, and which shall

be followed, when once this power has been conferred, by a system

giving to the Government the full knowledge which is the essential for

satisfactory action. Then when this knowledge—one of the essential

features of which is proper publicity—has been gained, what further

steps of any kind are necessary can be taken with the confidence born

of the possession of power to deal with the subject, and of a thorough

knowledge of what should and can be done in the matter.

We need additional power; and we need knowledge. Our Constitution was

framed when the economic conditions were so different that each State

could wisely be left to handle the corporations within its limits

as it saw fit. Nowadays all the corporations which I am considering

do what is really an interstate business, and as the States have

proceeded on very different lines in regulating them, at present a

corporation will be organized in one State, not because it intends to

do business in that State, but because it does not, and therefore that

State can give it better privileges, and then it will do business in

some other States, and will claim not to be under the control of the

States in which it does business; and of course it is not the object

of the State creating it to exercise any control over it, as it does

not do any business in that State. Such a system can not obtain. There

must be some sovereign. It might be better if all the States could

agree along the same lines in dealing with these corporations, but

I see not the slightest prospect of such an agreement. Therefore, I

personally feel that ultimately the nation will have to assume the

responsibility of regulating these very large corporations which do an

interstate business. The States must combine to meet the way in which

capital has combined; and the way in which the States can combine is

through the National Government. But I firmly believe that all these

obstacles can be met if only we face them, both with the determination

to overcome them, and with the further determination to overcome them

in ways which shall not do damage to the country as a whole; which on

the contrary shall further our industrial development, and shall help

instead of hindering all corporations which work out their success by

means that are just and fair toward all men.

Without the adoption of a constitutional amendment, my belief is that

a good deal can be done by law. It is difficult to say exactly how

much, because experience has taught us that in dealing with these

subjects, where the lines dividing the rights and duties of the States

and of the Nation are in doubt, it has sometimes been difficult for

Congress to forecast the action of the courts upon its legislation.

Such legislation (whether obtainable now, or obtainable only after a

constitutional amendment) should provide for a reasonable supervision,

the most prominent feature of which at first should be publicity; that

is, the making public, both to the governmental authorities and to the

people at large, the essential facts in which the public is concerned.

This would give us exact knowledge of many points which are now not

only in doubt, but the subject of fierce controversy. Moreover, the

mere fact of the publication would cure some very grave evils, for the

light of day is a deterrent to wrongdoing. It would doubtless disclose

other evils with which, for the time being, we could devise no way to

grapple. Finally, it would disclose others which could be grappled

with and cured by further legislative action.

Remember, I advocate the action which the President can only advise,

and which he has no power himself to take. Under our present

legislative and constitutional limitations the national executive

can work only between narrow lines in the field of action concerning

great corporations. Between those lines, I assure you that exact and

even-handed justice will be dealt, and is being dealt, to all men,

without regard to persons.

I wish to repeat with all emphasis that desirable though it is that

the nation should have the power I suggest, it is equally desirable

that it should be used with wisdom and self-restraint. The mechanism

of modern business is tremendous in its size and complexity, and

ignorant intermeddling with it would be disastrous. We should not be

made timid or daunted by the size of the problem; we should not fear

to undertake it; but we should undertake it with ever-present in our

minds dread of the sinister spirits of rancor, ignorance, and vanity.

We need to keep steadily in mind the fact that besides the tangible

property in each corporation there lies behind the spirit which brings

it success, and in the case of each very successful corporation this

is usually the spirit of some one man or set of men. Under exactly

similar conditions one corporation will make a stupendous success

where another makes a stupendous failure, simply because one is well

managed and the other is not. While making it clear that we do not

intend to allow wrongdoing by one of the captains of industry any more

than by the humblest private in the industrial ranks, we must also

in the interests of all of us avoid cramping a strength which, if

beneficently used, will be for the good of all of us. The marvelous

prosperity we have been enjoying for the past few years has been

due primarily to the high average of honesty, thrift, and business

capacity among our people as a whole; but some of it has also been

due to the ability of the men who are the industrial leaders of the

nation. In securing just and fair dealing by these men let us remember

to do them justice in return, and this not only because it is our

duty, but because it is our interest; not only for their sakes, but

for ours. We are neither the friend of the rich man as such, nor the

friend of the poor man as such; we are the friend of the honest man,

rich or poor; and we intend that all men, rich and poor alike, shall

obey the law alike and receive its protection alike.

AT THE BANQUET OF THE SPANISH WAR VETERANS, DETROIT, MICH., SEPTEMBER

22, 1902

_Mr. Mayor, and you, my Comrades, and all of you, my

Fellow-Americans, Men and Women of Detroit_:

While the war with Spain was easy enough, the tasks left behind,

though glorious, have been hard. You, the men of the Spanish War, and

your comrades in arms who fought in Cuba and Porto Rico and in the

Philippines, won renown for the country, added to its moral grandeur

and to its material prosperity; but you also left duties to be done

by those who came after you. In Porto Rico the duty has been merely

administrative, and it has been so well done that very little need be

said about it.

I speak in the presence not only of the men who fought in the Spanish

War and in the Philippine War, which was its aftermath, but in the

presence of those who fought in the great Civil War; and more than

that, I speak here in a typical city of the old Northwest, what is now

the Middle West, in a typical State of our Union. You men of Michigan

have been mighty in war and mighty in peace. You belong to a country

mighty in war and mighty in peace—a country of a great past, whose

great present is but an earnest of an even greater future. The world

has never seen more marvelous prosperity than that which we now enjoy,

and this prosperity is not ephemeral. We shall have our ups and downs.

The waves at times will recede, but the tide will go steadily higher.

This country has never yet been called upon to meet a crisis in war

or a crisis in peace to which it did not eventually prove equal. I

preach the gospel of hope to you men of the West who in thought and

life embody this gospel of hope, this gospel of resolute and confident

belief in your own powers and in the destiny of this mighty Republic.

I believe in the future—not in a spirit which will sit down and look

for the future to work itself out—but with a determination to do

its part in making the future what it can and shall be made. We are

optimists. We spurn the teachings of despair and distrust. We have

an abiding faith in the growing strength, the growing future of the

mighty young nation, still in the flush of its youth, and yet with the

might of a giant, which stands on a continent and grasps an ocean with

either hand.

Succeed? Of course we shall succeed! How can success fail to come to

a race of masterful energy and resoluteness, which has a continent

for the base of its domain, and which feels within its veins the

thrill that comes to generous souls when their strength stirs in

them, and they know that the future is theirs? No great destiny

ever yet came to a people walking with their eyes on the ground and

their faces shrouded in gloom. No great destiny ever yet came to a

people who feared the future, who feared failure more than they hoped

for success. With such as these we have no part. We know there are

dangers ahead, as we know there are evils to fight and overcome,

but we feel to the full the pulse of the prosperity which we enjoy.

Stout of heart, we see across the dangers the great future that lies

beyond, and we rejoice as a giant refreshed, as a strong man girt

for the race; and we go down into the arena where the nations strive

for mastery, our hearts lifted with the faith that to us and to our

children and our children’s children it shall be given to make this

Republic the mightiest among the peoples of mankind.

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