Interviewer's Comments

The old lady sat with her eyes nearly closed while I questioned her and

listened to her story. Those eyes ran and looked as though they needed

attention badly. The interview was conducted entirely on the porch as

that of Annie Parks. Traffic interrupted; friends interrupted; and a

daughter interrupted from time to time. But this daughter, while a

little suspicious, was in no degree hostile. The two of them referred

me to J.T. Tims, who, they said, knew a lot about slavery. His story is

given along with this one.

I got the impression that the old lady was born before the War, but

I accepted her statement and put her down as born since the War and

guessed her age as near seventy. She was evidently quite reserved about

some details. Her father's marriage to her mother after the War would

not necessarily mean that he was not married to her slave fashion before

the War. She didn't care so much about giving any story, but she was

polite and obliging after she had satisfied herself as to my identity

and work.

Interviewer: Samuel S. Taylor

Person interviewed: Omelia Thomas

1014 W. Fifth Street, Little Rock, Arkansas

Age: 63

"I was born in Marianna, Lee County, in Arkansas. I wasn't born right in

the town but out a piece from the town in the old Bouden place, in 1875.

My father kept a record of all births and deaths in his Bible. He never

forgot whenever a new baby would come to get down his glasses and

pen and ink and Bible. My daddy learned to read and write after the

emancipation.

"My father's name was Frank Johnson and my mother's name was Henrietta

Johnson. I don't know the given names of my father's and mother's

parents. I do know my mother's mother's name. Lucinda, and my father's

mother was named Stephens. I don't know their given names. My mother's

master was a Trotter.

"My father was a free man. He hired his own time. He told me that

his father hired his own time and he would go off and work. He made

washpots. He would go off and work and bring back money and things. His

mother was free too. When war was declared, he volunteered to go. He

was with the Yankees. My father worked just like my grandfather did.

Whenever he had a job to do. He never had a lick from anybody, carried

his gun strapped down on his side all the time and never went without

it.

"After the War, he worked on a steamboat. They used to kick the

roustabouts about and run them around but they never laid the weight of

their hands on him.

"They wouldn't allow him to go to school in slavery time. After the War,

he got a Blue Back Speller and would make a bowl of fire and at night

he would study--sometimes until daybreak. Then he found an old man that

would help him and he studied under him for a while. He never went to

any regular school, but he went to night school a little. Most of what

he got, he got himself.

"He was born in Louisville, Kentucky. I don't know how he happened to

meet my mother. During the time after the War, he went to running on the

boat from New Orleans to Friar Point, Mississippi. Then he would come

over to Helena. In going 'round, he met my mother near Marianna and

married her.

"Mother never had much to say, and the other girls would have a big time

talking. He noticed that she was sewing with ravelings and he said,

'Lady, next time I come I'll bring you a spool of thread if you don't

mind.' He brought the thread and she didn't mind, and from then on, they

went to courting. Finally they married. They married very shortly after

the War.

"My mother was a motherless girl. My daddy said he looked at her

struggling along. All the other girls were trying to have a good time.

But she would be settin' down trying to make a quilt or something else

useful, and he said to a friend of his, 'That woman would make a good

wife; I am going to marry her.' And he did.

"She used to spin her fine and coarse sewing thread and yarn to make

socks and stockings with. Her stockings and socks for the babies and

papa would always be yarn. She could do pretty work. She had a large

family. She had seventeen children and she kept them all in things she

made herself. She raised ten of them. She would make the thread and yarn

and the socks and stockings for all of these. I have known the time when

she used to make coats and pants for my father and brothers. She would

make them by hand because they didn't have any machines then. Of course,

she made all the underwear. She put up preserves and jellies for us to

eat in the winter. She used to put up kraut and stuff by the barrel. I

have seen some happy days when I was with my daddy and mother. He raised

pigs and hogs and chickens and cows. He raised all kinds of peas and

vegetables. He raised those things chiefly for the home, and he made

cotton for money. He would save about eight or ten bales and put them

under his shed for stockings and clothes and everything. He would have

another cotton selling in March.

"When my father was in the army, he would sometimes be out in the

weather, he told us, and he and the other soldiers would wrap up in

their blankets and sleep right in the snow itself.

"I farmed all my life until 1897. I farmed all my life till then. I was

at home. I married in 1895. My first husband and I made three crops and

then he stopped and went to public work. After that I never farmed any

more but went to cooking and doing laundry work. I came from Clarendon

here in 1901.

"I never had any experiences with the Yankees. My mother used to tell

how they took all the old master's stuff--mules and sugar--and then

throwed it out and rode their horses through it when they didn't want it

for theirselves.

"I married a second time. I have been single now for the last three

years. My husband died on the twentieth of August three years ago. I

ain't got no business here at all. I ought to be at my home living well.

But I work for what I get and I'm proud of it.

"A working woman has many things to contend with. That girl downstairs

keeps a gang of men coming and going, and sometimes some of them

sometimes try to come up here. Sunday night when I come home from

church, one was standing in the dark by my door waiting for me. I had

this stick in my hand and I ordered him down. He saw I meant business;

so he went on down. Some of them are determined.

"There's no hope for tomorrow so far as these young folks are concerned.

And the majority of the old people are almost worse than the young ones.

Used to be that all the old people were mothers and fathers but now they

are all going together. Everything is in a critical condition. There is

not much truth in the land. All human affection is gone. There is mighty

little respect. The way some people carry on is pitiful."

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