I lost my enthusiasm.

Reeves told the Phill-la-me-york story which was told by Austin Pen

Parnell. You will find it in his story. The only difference between his

story and Parnell's is that Reeves had the conclusion. He claimed that

the old master got in a fight with one of the slaves present and yelled

out his identity when he was getting badly beaten. The story sounds

like it came from the Arkansas folklore collection or from someone who

contributed it to that collection.

An aftermath of Reeves' story is finding out that most people consider

Henry Banner, whose story has been previously given and whose age was

given as eighty-nine, is considered by many persons to be ninety-four.

Neely, one of the adult school-teachers, says that he has gone over

Banner's life carefully with him, and that he must have been twenty-one

or twenty-two at the close of the War because during slavery, he had

experience at logging, or rather at logrolling, a work so difficult that

only full-grown men were used at it. Since Banner is slightly built,

there is scarcely a possibility that he did such work before the normal

time.

[HW: Cf. 30715 for interview with Parnell.]

Interviewer: Bernice Bowden

Person Interviewed: Shepherd Rhone

10th and Kentucky

Pine Bluff, Ark.

Age: 75

"Yes ma'am, I was bred and born in 'sixty-three in Phillips County,

Arkansas, close to Helena, on old Judge Jones' plantation. Judge Jones,

he was a lawyer. Remember him? I ought to, he whiped me enough. His

wife's name was Caroline Jones. She used to smack my jaws and pull

my ears but she was a pretty good woman. The old judge was a raw one

though. You had to step around or he'd step around for you.

"I stayed right there till I was grown. My mother was named Katie Rhone

and my father was named Daniel Rhone. My mother was born in Richmond,

Virginia and my father in Petersburg, Virginia.

"Judge Jones brought em here to Arkansas. My father was a bodyguard for

old Judge Jones' son Tom in the War. My father stuck with him till peace

declared--had to do it.

"They was thirteen of us chillun and they is all gone but me, and I'll

soon be gone.

"I know when the Yankees come I run from em. When peace declared, the

Yankees come all through our house and took everything they could get

hold of to eat.

"The only reason the Yankees whipped the South was they starved em.

"I know one time when peace declared I caught afire and I run and jumped

in a tub of water and I had sense enough not to tell my mother. A girl I

was raised up with went and told her though.

"After freedom I worked for old Judge Jones on the half system. He give

me everthing that was due me. When he was eighty years old, he called

all his old tenants up and give em a mule and twenty-five dollars. He

was pretty good to em after all.

"I went to free school in the summertime after the crops was laid by, I

can read and write pretty good.

"I came here to Jefferson County in 'eighty-six and I put in thirty-six

years at the Cotton Belt Shops. When that strike come on they told us

colored folks to quit and I never went back. I worked for em when she

was a narrow gauge.

"I worked in the North three years. I nightwatched all over St. Louis

and Madison, Illinois. I liked it fine up there--white folks is more

familiar up there and seems like you can get favors. If I don't get

somethin' here, I'm goin' back up there.

"When I got big enough I voted the Republican ticket and after they got

this primary. I think the colored people ought to vote now cause they

make em pay taxes.

"I'll tell you right now, the younger generation is goin' to the dogs.

We'll never make a nation of em as long as they go out to these places

at night. They ought to be a law passed. When nine o'clock comes they

ought to be home in bed, but they is just gettin' started then.

"I belong to the Catholic Church. I think it's a pretty good church. We

have a white priest and I'll tell you one thing thing--you can't get a

divorce and marry again and stay in the Catholic Church."

Interviewer: Mrs. Bernice Bowden

Person interviewed: Dora Richard

3301 W. 14th Avenue, Pine Bluff, Arkansas

Age: 76

"I was born in South Carolina and I was my mother's baby chile.

"Jacob Foster was our old master and he sold my mother over in east

Tennessee. Now of cose she wasn't put upon the block and sold. She was

the house woman and spin and wove. After they sold her my father run

off. Oh sure, they caught him and I know old mistress said, 'Now, Jacob,

if you want to go where Lydia is, you can go.' So they sold him near

her.

"I stayed with the Fosters till peace was declared and ever'thing was

declared free. Then my father come after me.

"I can just sketch things. I try to forget it. My mother and father was

pretty agreeable when they was set free.

"In Tennessee we stayed at the foot of Lookout Mountain and I can

remember seein' the cannon balls.

"Here's the way I want to tell you. Some of the white people are as good

to the colored people as they could be and some of em are mean. My own

folks do so bad I'm ashamed of em.

"So many of the colored of the South have emigrated to the North. I have

lived there and I don't know why I'm here now.

"Some of my color don't like that about the Jim Crow Law, but I say if

they furnish us a nice comfortable coach I would rather be with my own

people. And I don't care to go to the white folks' church.

"My mother used to tell me how they used to hide behind trees so the

boss man couldn't see em when they was prayin' and at night put out the

light and turn the pot down.

"I went to school in Tennessee. I never will forget it. I had a white

teacher. He was in the War and he had a leg shot off. I went through the

sixth grade and was ready for the seventh Ray's Arithmetic. I walked

four miles there and four miles back--eight miles a day.

"I can remember too when my mother and father was baptized. I know mama

come out of the water a shoutin'. Oh, that was good times then. I felt

better when I was under my mother cause when I married my life was over.

I raised about ten children.

"I remember when the Ku Klux come to my sister's house lookin' for her

husband. I know I was in the bed and I raised up. I was scared you know.

"When I hear some colored folks say they wish the old slavery times was

back, I just knows they is lazy. They don't want any responsibility."

Interviewer: Mrs. Bernice Bowden

Person interviewed: Jim Ricks

517 E. 22nd Avenue, Pine Bluff, Arkansas

Age: 79

"I was born in slavery times. I 'member runnin' from the Yankees when

they wanted to carry me off. Just devilin' me, you know. You know how

little chillun was 'bout white folks in them days.

"I went to school three weeks and my daddy stopped me and put me to

work.

"Old master was named Jimmie Ricks. They named me after him, I think.

"My mother said he was a mighty good master. Didn't 'low his niggers

whipped.

"Yes'm, I was born and raised in Arkansas, down here in Calhoun County.

"I had a chance to learn but I was a rowdy. I wanted to hunt. I was a

mighty huntsman.

"I was a good worker too. White folks was all stuck on me 'cause I was a

good worker.

"I did farm work and then did public work after the crops was laid by.

But now I got too old to work.

"I seen the Ku Klux once or twice when they was Ku Klukin' around. Some

of 'em would holler 'Kluk, kluk, kluk.' I was quite small, but I could

remember 'am 'cause I was scared of 'em.

"I farmed all my life till year before last. I was a good farmer too.

"I used to vote years ago. I voted Republican. Yes ma'am.

"Younger generation ain't near like they was when I was young. I was

well thought of. Couldn't be out after sundown or they'd bump my head.

My stepfather would give me a flailin'. I thought he was mean to me but

I see now he done right by whippin' me.

"I know in slavery times they got plenty of somethin' to eat. Old master

fed us well."

Interviewer: Miss Irene Robertson

Person interviewed: Charlie Rigger

R.F.D., three miles, Palestine, Arkansas

Age: 85 plus, doesn't know age

"I was born six miles from Mounticellar close to the line of Morgan and

Jasper County. Mother belong to the Smiths. Her father was part Creek

(Indian). They all was sold to Floyd Malone. His wife was Betsy Malone.

They had five children.

"When I was a child I lay under the loom day after day picking up the

sickle. Ma was a cook and a weaver too.

"Malone was a good man but his wife was one of 'em. She was a terrible

piece of humanity. Father was a farm hand. They had a gin, a shoe shop,

and a blacksmith shop all on Floyd Malone's place. I picked a little

cotton before 'mancipation. Floyd Malone had to buy my mother to git her

where my father was.

"Some of the boys wore dresses till they was twelve or fifteen years

old. One fellar rode a mule or cow one the other to preaching. While

he sit talking to his gal at the window a steer cone up and et off his

dress tail. Boys got to courting before they got to take off their long

shirts.

"They wasn't so good to mother. She run off several times. She went

'bout one and one-half miles to her mother on the Compton place. They

didn't whoop her. They promised her a whooping. They whooped her and me

too but I never knowed 'em to whoop my father. When they whoop my mother

I'd run off to place we lived and crawl under the house.

"We chillun had nothing to do wid coffee. We drunk milk out little

bowls. We'd turn it up or lap it out which one could do the best. They

fed us. We'd ask for more till we got filled up.

"I recollect the soldiers come by in July 1863 or 1864 and back in

December. I heard talk so long 'fore they got there I knowed who they

was. They took my oldest brother. He didn't want to go. We never heard

from him. He never come back. My white master hid out. He didn't go

to war. One son went and come back. It was the Yankees made my oldest

brother go. The first crowd in July swapped their wore-out scrub stock

for our good stock. That second crowd cleaned them out, took our hogs.

Miss Betty had died 'fore they come in July. That second crowd come in

December. They cleaned out everything to eat and wear. They set the

house 'fire several times with paper and coal oil (kerosene). It went

out every time. One told the captain. He come up behind. It went out

every time. He said, 'Let's move on.' They left it clean and bare. We

didn't like them. We had meat hid in the cellar. We got hungry that

spring sure as you born.

"The old man married pretty soon after freedom. He married young to what

he was.

"I didn't find much fault to slavery 'cepting the abuse. We et three

times a day and now if I get one piece I do well. Mother cooked, washed,

ironed and spun four cuts a day. We all et at the master's kitchen three

times a day. We had thirty-two families. I've heard that ag'in time and

ag'in so as I recollect it till now. We didn't have to work no harder

'en we do now if you have a living.

"Master waited till all there. He had a horn made sorter like a bugle

for that business. Called us to our meals. We stayed a year. Went to his

brother's one year, then to Major Lane's big farm. We had to work about

the same as b'fore freedom. Not much change.

"The Ku Klux come 'round right smart. Some had on skin coverings, cow

heads and horns. Some wore white sheets and black dresses on white

horses. They was scary looking. They would whoop and kill too. I was too

scared to get caught off at night.

"Mother died. I was traveling about. I spent thirteen months in

Mississippi. Three winters right in Memphis. I married in Mississippi. I

left two daughters in Georgia. My wife died. I come to Arkansas in 1902.

I live all alone.

"This present generation is traveling too fast. It-is-to-be. Fast

traveling and education. Times not good as it always have been b'fore

that last war (World War). When the white folks start jowing we black

folks suffers. It ain't a bit our fault. Education causes the black man

to see he is bit (cheated) but he better not say a word. It very good

thing if it is used right. Fast traveling is all right in its place. But

too many is traveling and they all want to be going. We got into pretty

fast time of it now. It-is-to-be and it's getting shoved on faster."

Interviewer: Miss Irene Robertson

Person interviewed: Ida Rigley, Forrest City, Arkansas

Age: 82

"I was born in Richmond, Virginia. Colonel Radford and Emma Radford

owned my mother. They had a older girl, Emma and Betty and three boys. I

called her Miss Betty.

"My mother was Sylvia Jones and she had five children. Bill Jones was my

father. He was a born free man and a blacksmith at Lynchburg, Virginia

in slavery times.

"He asked Colonel Radford could he come to see my mama and marry her.

They had a wedding in Colonel Radford's dining room and a preacher on

the place married them. They told me. My father was a Presbyterian

preacher. I heard papa preach at Lynchburg. He had a white principle but

no white blood. I never knew him very much till long after freedom.

"Miss Betty Radford was raising me for a house girl. I was younger

than her children. Mother was a weaver for all on the place. Old aunt

Caroline was the regular cook but my mother helped to cook for hands he

hired at busy seasons of the year. My sisters lived in the quarters and

mama slept with them. She helped them. They worked in the field some.

They was careful not to overwork young hands. They cooked down at the

quarters. They had a real old man and woman to set about and see after

the children and feed them. The older children looked after the babies.

When Miss Betty went off visiting she would send me down there. I did

love it.

"Emma and Betty went to school at Richmond in a buggy. They had a

colored boy driver. He was the carriage driver. Emma and Betty would

play with me too. Miss Betty fed me all the time. She made me a bonnet

and I can't get shed of my bonnet yet. I got four bonnets now.

"When the white folks had a wedding it lasted a week. They had a second

day dress and a third day dress and had suppers and dinner receptions

about among the kin folks. They had big chests full of quilts and

coverlets and counterpanes they been packing back. Some of them would

have big dances. A wedding would last a week, night and day.

"They had a farm right. We had peacocks, white guinea and big black

turkeys, cows, sheep, goats, hogs; he had deer. He kept their horns cut

off and some of the cow's horns were off. We had a acre in a garden and

had roses and all kinds of flowers. I like flowers now. Tries to have

'em. They had a gin on the place. He raised corn, rye, cotton, and

tobacco. The hands got their supplies on Saturday. On rainy days all the

women would knit, white and colored both. Miss Betty knitted some at

night in winter. They had a shop to sharpen and keep all the tools in. A

particular old man made the brooms and rakes.

"It seem like there wasn't so many flies. Miss Betty mixed up molasses

and flour and poison and killed flies sometimes. She spread it on brown

paper. We had fly weed tea to set about too sometimes. We didn't have

to use anything regular. We didn't have no screens. We had mighty few

mosquitoes. We had peafowl fly brushes. They was mighty pretty.

"One thing we had was a deep walled well and an ice-house. They cut ice

in blocks and put it up for winter[HW:?]. We had one spring on the place

I know.

"They kept hounds. Colonel Radford's boys and the colored boys all went

hunting. We had 'possum and potatoes all along in winter; 'possum grease

won't make you sick. Eat all you want. I'd hear their horn and the dogs.

They would come in hungry every time. I never seen no whiskey. He had

his cider and vinegar press and made wine. We had cider and wine all

along. Colonel Radford was his own overseer and Charlie his oldest boy.

They whooped mighty little. They would stand up and be whooped. Some of

the young ones was hard-headed and rude. He advised them and they minded

him pretty well.

"Our yards was large and beautiful; some had grass and some clean spots

about in the shade. Friday was wash day. Saturday was iron day. Miss

Betty would go about in the quarters to see if the houses was scrubbed

every week after washing. They had to wear clean clothes and have clean

beds about her place. She'd shame them to death.

"Colonel Radford had a colored church for us all. It was a log house and

he had a office for his boys to read and write and smoke cob pipes in.

The white folks' church was at the corner of his place. I went there

most. They shouted and pat their hands. Colonel Radford was a Baptist.

"Nearly every farm had a fiddler. Ever so often he had a big dance in

their parlor. I'd try to dance by myself. He had his own music by the

hands on his place. He let them have dances at the quarters every now

and then. Dancing was a piece of his religion.

"I don't think our everyday frocks was stiffened but our dress up

clothes was. It was made out of flour--boiled flour starch. We had

striped dresses and stockings too. We had checked dresses. We had

goobers and a chestnut grove. We had a huckleberry patch. We had maple

sugar to eat. It was good. We had popcorn and chinquapins in the fall

of the year, I used to pick up chips to use at the pot. I had a little

basket. I picked up corn cobs. They burnt them and made corn cob soda to

use in the bread and cakes. We parched peeled sweet potatoes slice thin

and made coffee.

"The Civil War was terrible. One morning before we was all out of bed

the Yankees come. It was about daylight. He and the three boys were

there. They didn't burn any houses and they didn't hesitate but they

took everything. They took all Miss Betty's nice silverware. They took

fine quilts and feather beds. That was in the fall of the year. They

drove off a line of our slaves (a block long) fer as from me to that

railroad. Made them go. They walked fast in front of the cavalrymen.

They took mama and my sisters. She got away from them with her girls and

found her way back to papa at Lynchburg.

"Colonel Radford went and took some of the slave men and his boys. They

brought home plenty beds and a barrel of salt. He brought back plenty.

He sent his slave man to town any time. They had no notion leaving.

"One time some Yankees come. I run hid around Miss Betty's long dress.

She was crying. They was pulling her rings off her fingers. I told them

to quit that. One of the mean things said, 'Little nigger, I shoot your

head off.' They took all her nice clothes. They said they took all

niggers. I sassed them. They went in another room. I shot under Miss

Betty's big skirt. They looked about for me but they thought I run off

to my mama. She was gone but they didn't know it. I seen my best times

then. We had a good time there. Miss Betty was good and kind to me. Good

as I wanted. I wish I had that good now.

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