CONVERSATIONS ON THE FINE ARTS.

"Miss Fuller's fifth conversation was pretty much a monologue

of her own. The company collected proved much larger than any

of us had anticipated: a chosen company,--several persons from

homes out of town, at considerable inconvenience; and, in one

or two instances, fresh from extreme experiences of joy and

grief,--which Margaret felt a very grateful tribute to her.

She knew no one came for experiment, but all in earnest love

and trust, and was moved by it quite to the heart, which threw

an indescribable charm of softness over her brilliancy. It is

sometimes said, that women never are so lovely and enchanting

in the company of their own sex, merely, but it requires the

other to draw them out. Certain it is that Margaret never

appears, when I see her, either so brilliant and deep in

thought, or so desirous to please, or so modest, or so

heart-touching, as in this very party. Well, she began to say

how gratifying it was to her to see so many come, because all

knew why they came,--that it was to learn from each other and

ourselves the highest ends of life, where there could be no

excitements and gratifications of personal ambition, &c. She

spoke of herself, and said she felt she had undergone changes

in her own mind since the last winter, as doubtless we all

felt we had done; that she was conscious of looking at all

things less objectively,--more from the law with which she

identified herself. This, she stated, was the natural

progress of our individual being, when we did not hinder

its development, to advance from objects to law, from the

circumference of being, where we found ourselves at our birth,

to the centre.

"This advance was enacted poesy. We could not, in our

individual lives, amid the disturbing influences of other

wills, which had as much right to their own action as we to

ours, enact poetry entirely; the discordant, the inferior, the

prose, would intrude, but we should always keep in mind that

poetry of life was not something aside,--a path that might or

might not be trod,--it was the only path of the true soul;

and prose you may call the deviation. We might not always

be poetic in life, but we might and should be poetic in our

thought and intention. The fine arts were one compensation for

the necessary prose of life. The man who could not write his

thought of beauty in his life,--the materials of whose life

would not work up into poetry,--wrote it in stone, drew it on

canvas, breathed it in music, or built it in lofty rhyme. In

this statement, however, she guarded her meaning, and said

that to seek beauty was to miss it often. We should only seek

to live as harmoniously with the great laws as our social and

other duties permitted, and solace ourselves with poetry and

the fine arts."

I find a further record by the same friendly scribe, which seems a

second and enlarged account of the introductory conversation, or else

a sketch of the course of thought which ran through several meetings,

and which very naturally repeated occasionally the same thoughts. I

give it as I find it:--

"She then recurred to the last year's conversations; and,

first, the Grecian mythologies, which she looked at as

symbolical of a deeper intellectual and æsthetic life than

we were wont to esteem it, when looking at it from a narrow

religious point of view. We had merely skimmed along the

deeper study. She spoke of the conversations on the different

part played by Inspiration and Will in the works of man, and

stated the different views of inspiration,--how some had felt

it was merely perception; others apprehended it as influx upon

the soul from the soul-side of its being. Then she spoke of

the conversation upon poesy as the ground of all the fine

arts, and also of the true art of life; it being not merely

truth, not merely good, but the beauty which integrates

both. On this poesy, she dwelt long, aiming to show how

life,--perfect life,--could be the only perfect manifestation

of it. Then she spoke of the individual as surrounded,

however, by _prose_,--so we may here call the manifestation of

the temporary, in opposition to the eternal, always trenching

on it, and circumscribing and darkening. She spoke of the

acceptance of this limitation, but it should be called by the

right name, and always measured; and we should inwardly cling

to the truth that poesy was the natural life of the soul; and

never yield inwardly to the common notion that poesy was a

luxury, out of the common track; but maintain in word and

life that prose carried the soul out of its track; and then,

perhaps, it would not injure us to walk in these by-paths,

when forced thither. She admitted that prose was the necessary

human condition, and quickened our life indirectly by

necessitating a conscious demand on the source of life.

In reply to a remark I made, she very strongly stated the

difference between a poetic and a _dilettante_ life, and

sympathized with the sensible people who were tired of hearing

all the young ladies of Boston sighing like furnace after

being beautiful. Beauty was something very different from

prettiness, and a microscopic vision missed the grand whole.

The fine arts were our compensation for not being able to live

out our poesy, amid the conflicting and disturbing forces of

this moral world in which we are. In sculpture, the heights to

which our being comes are represented; and its nature is such

as to allow us to leave out all that vulgarizes,--all that

bridges over to the actual from the ideal. She dwelt long upon

sculpture, which seems her favorite art. That was grand, when

a man first thought to engrave his idea of man upon a stone,

the most unyielding and material of materials,--the backbone

of this phenomenal earth,--and, when he did not succeed,

that he persevered; and so, at last, by repeated efforts, the

Apollo came to be.

"But, no; music she thought the greatest of arts,--expressing

what was most interior,--what was too fine to be put into any

material grosser than air; conveying from soul to soul the

most secret motions of feeling and thought. This was the only

fine art which might be thought to be nourishing now. The

others had had their day. This was advancing upon a higher

intellectual ground.

"Of painting she spoke, but not so well. She seemed to think

painting worked more by illusion than sculpture. It involved

more prose, from its representing more objects. She said

nothing adequate about _color_.

"She dwelt upon the histrionic art as the most complete, its

organ being the most flexible and powerful.

"She then spoke of life, as the art, of which these all were

beautiful symbols; and said, in recurring to her opinions

expressed last winter, of Dante and Wordsworth, that she had

taken another view, deeper, and more in accordance with

some others which were then expressed. She acknowledged

that Wordsworth had done more to make all men poetical, than

perhaps any other; that he was the poet of reflection; that

where he failed to poetize his subject, his simple faith

intimated to the reader a poetry that he did not find in the

book. She admitted that Dante's Narrative was instinct with

the poetry concentrated often in single words. She uttered her

old heresies about Milton, however, unmodified.

"I do not remember the transition to modern poetry and Milnes;

but she read (very badly indeed) the Legendary Tale.

"We then had three conversations upon Sculpture, one of which

was taken up very much in historical accounts of the sculpture

of the ancients, in which color was added to form, and which

seemed to prove that they were not, after all, sufficiently

intellectual to be operated on by form exclusively. The

question, of course, arose whether there was a modern

sculpture, and why not. This led us to speak of the Greek

sculpture as growing naturally out of their life and religion,

and how alien it was to our life and to our religion. The

Swiss lion, carved by Thorwaldsen out of the side of a

mountain rock, was described as a natural growth. Those who

had seen it described it; and Mrs. ---- spoke of it. She was

also led to the story of her acquaintance with Thorwaldsen,

and drew tears from many eyes with her natural eloquence.

"Mrs. C. asked, if sculpture could express as well as painting

the idea of immortality.

"Margaret thought the Greek art expressed immortality as much

as Christian art, but did not throw it into the future, by

preëminence. They expressed it in the present, by casting out

of the mortal body every expression of infirmity and decay.

The idealization of the human form makes a God. The fact that

man can conceive and express this perfection of being, is as

good a witness to immortality, as the look of aspiration in

the countenance of a Magdalen.

"It is quite beyond the power of my memory to recall all

the bright utterances of Margaret, in these conversations on

Sculpture. It was a favorite subject with her. Then came two

or three conversations on Painting, in which it seemed to be

conceded that color expressed passion, whilst sculpture more

severely expressed thought: yet painting did not exclude the

expression of thought, or sculpture that of feeling,--witness

Niobe,--but it must be an universal feeling, like the maternal

sentiment."

* * * * *

"_March 22, 1841_.--The question of the day was, What is life?

"Let us define, each in turn, our idea of living. Margaret did

not believe we had, any of us, a distinct idea of life.

"A.S. thought so great a question ought to be given for a

written definition. 'No,' said Margaret, 'that is of no use.

When we go away to think of anything, we never do think. We

all talk of life. We all have some thought now. Let us tell

it. C----, what is life?'

"C---- replied,--'It is to laugh, or cry, according to our

organization.'

"'Good,' said Margaret, 'but not grave enough. Come, what is

life? I know what I think; I want you to find out what you

think.'

"Miss P. replied,--'Life is division from one's principle of

life in order to a conscious reörganization. We are cut up by

time and circumstance, in order to feel our reproduction of

the eternal law.'

"Mrs. E.,--'We live by the will of God, and the object of life

is to submit,' and went on into Calvinism.

"Then came up all the antagonisms of Fate and Freedom.

"Mrs. H. said,--'God created us in order to have a perfect

sympathy from us as free beings.'

"Mrs. A.B. said she thought the object of life was to attain

absolute freedom. At this Margaret immediately and visibly

kindled.

"C.S. said,--'God creates from the fulness of life, and

cannot but create; he created us to overflow, without being

exhausted, because what he created, necessitated new creation.

It is not to make us happy, but creation is his happiness and

ours.'

"Margaret was then pressed to say what she considered life to

be.

"Her answer was so full, clear, and concise, at once, that

it cannot but be marred by being drawn through the scattering

medium of my memory. But here are some fragments of her

satisfying statement.

"She began with God as Spirit, Life, so full as to create and

love eternally, yet capable of pause. Love and creativeness

are dynamic forces, out of which we, individually, as

creatures, go forth bearing his image, that is, having within

our being the same dynamic forces, by which we also add

constantly to the total sum of existence, and shaking off

ignorance, and its effects, and by becoming more ourselves,

i.e., more divine;--destroying sin in its principle, we attain

to absolute freedom, we return to God, conscious like himself,

and, as his friends, giving, as well as receiving, felicity

forevermore. In short, we become gods, and able to give the

life which we now feel ourselves able only to receive.

"On Saturday morning, Mrs. L.E. and Mrs. E.H. were present,

and begged Margaret to repeat the statement concerning life,

with which she closed the last conversation. Margaret said she

had forgotten every word she said. She must have been inspired

by a good genius, to have so satisfied everybody.--but the

good genius had left her. She would try, however, to say what

she thought, and trusted it would resemble what she had said

already. She then went into the matter, and, true enough, she

did not use a single word she used before."

The fame of these conversations spread wide through all families and

social circles of the ladies attending, and the golden report they

gave, led to a proposal, that Margaret should undertake an evening

class, of four or five lessons, to which gentlemen should also be

admitted. This was put in effect, in the course of the winter, and

I had myself the pleasure of assisting at one--the second--of these

soirées. The subject was Mythology, and several gentlemen took part

in it. Margaret spoke well,--she could not otherwise,--but I remember

that she seemed encumbered, or interrupted, by the headiness or

incapacity of the men, whom she had not had the advantage of training,

and who fancied, no doubt, that, on such a question, they, too, must

assert and dogmatize.

But, how well or ill they fared, may still be known; since the same

true hand which reported for the Ladies' Class, drew up, at the time,

the following note of the Evenings of Mythology. My distance from

town, and engagements, prevented me from attending again. I was told

that on the preceding and following evenings the success was more

decisive.

"Margaret's plan, in these conversations, was a very noble

one, and, had it been seconded, as she expected, they would

have been splendid. She thought, that, by admitting gentlemen,

who had access, by their classical education, to the whole

historical part of the mythology, her own comparative

deficiency, as she felt it, in this part of learning, would be

made up; and that taking her stand on the works of art, which

were the final development in Greece of these multifarious

fables, the whole subject might be swept from zenith to

nadir. But all that depended on others entirely failed. Mr. W.

contributed some isolated facts,--told the etymology of names,

and cited a few fables not so commonly known as most; but,

even in the point of erudition, which Margaret did not

profess, on the subject, she proved the best informed of the

party, while no one brought an idea, except herself.

"Her general idea was, that, upon the Earth-worship and

Sabæanism of earlier ages, the Grecian genius acted to

humanize and idealize, but, still, with some regard to the

original principle. What was a seed, or a root, merely, in the

Egyptian mind, became a flower in Greece,--Isis, and Osiris,

for instance, are reproduced in Ceres and Proserpine, with

some loss of generality, but with great gain of beauty;

Hermes, in Mercury, with only more grace of form, though with

great loss of grandeur; but the loss of grandeur was also an

advance in philosophy, in this instance, the brain in the hand

being the natural consequence of the application of Idea to

practice,--the Hermes of the Egyptians.

"I do not feel that the class, by their apprehension of

Margaret, do any justice to the scope and depth of her views.

They come,--myself among the number,--I confess,--to be

entertained; but she has a higher purpose. She, amid all her

infirmities, studies and thinks with the seriousness of one

upon oath, and there has not been a single conversation this

winter, in either class, that had not in it the spirit which

giveth life. Just in proportion to the importance of

the subject, does she tax her mind, and say what is most

important; while, of necessity, nothing is reported from

the conversations but her brilliant sallies, her occasional

paradoxes of form, and, sometimes, her impatient reacting

upon dulness and frivolity. In particular points, I know, some

excel her; in particular departments I sympathize more with

some other persons; but, take her as a whole, she has the most

to bestow on others by conversation of any person I have ever

known. I cannot conceive of any species of vanity living in

her presence. She distances all who talk with her.

"Mr. E. only served to display her powers. With his sturdy

reiteration of his uncompromising idealism, his absolute

denial of the fact of human nature, he gave her opportunity

and excitement to unfold and illustrate her realism and

acceptance of conditions. What is so noble is, that her

realism is transparent with idea,--her human nature is the

germ of a divine life. She proceeds in her search after the

unity of things, the divine harmony, not by exclusion, as Mr.

E. does, but by comprehension,--and so, no poorest, saddest

spirit, but she will lead to hope and faith. I have thought,

sometimes, that her acceptance of evil was _too great_,--that

her theory of the good to be educed proved too much. But in a

conversation I had with her yesterday, I understood her better

than I had done. 'It might never be sin to us, at the moment,'

she said, 'it must be an excess, on which conscience puts the

restraint.'"

The classes thus formed were renewed in November of each year, until

Margaret's removal to New York, in 1844. But the notes of my principal

reporter fail me at this point. Afterwards, I have only a few sketches

from a younger hand. In November, 1841, the class numbered from

twenty-five to thirty members: the general subject is stated as

"Ethics." And the influences on Woman seem to have been discussed

under the topics of the Family, the School, the Church, Society, and

Literature. In November, 1842, Margaret writes that the meetings have

been unusually spirited, and congratulates herself on the part taken

in them by Miss Burley, as 'a presence so positive as to be of great

value to me.' The general subject I do not find. But particular

topics were such as these:--"Is the ideal first or last; divination

or experience?" "Persons who never awake to life in this world."

"Mistakes;" "Faith;" "Creeds;" "Woman;" "Dæmonology;" "Influence;"

"Catholicism" (Roman); "The Ideal."

In the winter of 1843-4, the general subject was "Education." Culture,

Ignorance, Vanity, Prudence, Patience, and Health, appear to have

been the titles of conversations, in which wide digressions, and much

autobiographic illustration, with episodes on War, Bonaparte, Goethe,

and Spinoza, were mingled. But the brief narrative may wind up with a

note from Margaret on the last day.

'_28th April, 1844_.--It was the last day with my class. How

noble has been my experience of such relations now for six

years, and with so many and so various minds! Life is worth

living, is it not?

'We had a most animated meeting. On bidding me good-bye, they

all, and always, show so much good-will and love, that I feel

I must really have become a friend to them. I was then loaded

with beautiful gifts, accompanied with those little delicate

poetic traits, of which I should delight to tell you, if we

were near. Last came a beautiful bouquet, passion-flower,

heliotrope, and soberer blooms. Then I went to take my repose

on C----'s sofa, and we had a most serene afternoon together.'

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