R. R. LIVINGSTON TO N. J. ROOSEVELT.

Acknowledges Wheels over the Sides to have been Proposed by Roosevelt

and rejects them.

Clermont, _18th Sept., 1798_.

Dear Sir,

Mr. Mouchette is just returned. I sincerely congratulate you upon the

success of the engine of which he gives the most favourable report &

fully justifies yr. confidence in your engines. I am sufficiently

sanguine to hope that all difficulties are now vanished. Knowing our

power nothing remains but adapt the vessel to it. In attempting this

hitherto we have deceived ourselves by wandering into the field of

conjecture rather than adhereing to plain calculations & we shall

still do so if we expect that the present engine will turn the wheels

we now have 80 times in a minute, as will appear from this

calculation. Our wells contain exactly 60 cubic feet of water. The

whole of this is set in motion at every revolution of the wheels with

a rapidity equal to the main motion of the arms, that is if the wheels

make 80 revolutions in a minute at the rate of 8 miles an hour. Now as

the boat will not remove more than 20 feet of water if she goes 8

miles an hour, if it was possible to move the wheels as they are now

constructed 80 rounds in a minute we should throw away one half of our

power, for the boat could not move faster than the water in the wheels

& the power would be uselessly expended in throwing out water

unnecessarily.

But it will be found on experiment that however perfect our engine is,

it cannot turn the present wheels 80 times in a minute. The wheels

then must necessarily be altered or the motion rendered still slower.

To make the motion slower is to diminish our chance of moving the boat

fast because she will at no rate move faster than the water in the

wheels though she may be made to move as fast as I have found on

actual experiment. The wheels then must be altered, not by making the

arms shorter for this would diminish their motion, besides that it

would require an alteration in the boat—but by diminishing their

depth. They are now if I recollect 18 Inches deep, let them be reduced

to nine Inches.

Let the motion of the wheels by no means exceed 80 nor be lower than

70 turns in a minute and I will answer for the success of the

experiment, & upon the whole it will turn out a fortunate discovery

since we shall find that our wells need not be above half the size we

have made them & of course much room and much weight of water be saved

in future. That we have erred hitherto should not discourage us. It is

the fate of all new undertakings and it is happy when the error can be

so easily discovered & detected. Another circumstance of considerable

moment must be attended to. If the diminution of the motion is brought

about by changing the sun and planet wheels, one half the motion of

the flys will be lost & they rendered almost useless from this

circumstance. If they are made heavier they will overload the boat.

I would propose as the best mode of altering the motion of the wheels

to alter the cog wheels & to leave the sun and planet wheels as they

were—this will give the proper motion to the fly & diminish the

friction. Let the cog wheels be made smaller and have no more cogs

than the trunnel rounds, or only so many more as will serve to give

the motion we require. Nor will this alteration be attended with more

trouble than the one at first proposed; but even if it is, it is so

essential to give the flys a rapid motion that we must, now we have

gone so far, submit to this trouble and expense to have this

experiment properly made. _I say nothing on the subject of_ WHEELS

OVER THE SIDES _as I am perfectly convinced from a variety of

experiments of the superiority of those we have adopted_. I expect to

be down the last of this month when I shall see you & make such money

arrangements as we may find necessary.

In the meantime I hope to hear how you go on. I flatter myself no

delay will be incurred which can possibly be avoided, every moment

being precious. Mr. Mark will I hope forward this to you the moment it

arrives, so that the necessary alterations may be made before you

proceed far on any difficult plan.

I am very much hurt that you should construe any part of my former

letters into a reflection on your candour. I am sure that nothing of

this kind was ever intended & I flatter myself that if you attend a

little more to the expressions (tho: I cannot now recollect them) that

they will not bear this harsh construction.[4]

I am dear Sir, with esteem, your most ob: hum: servt:

ROB. R. LIVINGSTON.

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