4. Heaven for believers and hell for unbelievers.

_First_. I admit that the Bible says that God is

good and holy. But this Bible also tells what God

did, and if God did what the Bible says he did, then I

insist that God is not good, and that he is not holy,

or forgiving. According to the Bible, this good

God believed in religious persecution; this good

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God believed in extermination, in polygamy, in con-

cubinage, in human slavery; this good God com-

manded murder and massacre, and this good God

could only be mollified by the shedding of blood.

This good God wanted a butcher for a priest. This

good God wanted husbands to kill their wives--

wanted fathers and mothers to kill their children.

This good God persecuted animals on account of the

crimes of their owners. This good God killed the

common people because the king had displeased him.

This good God killed the babe even of the maid

behind the mill, in order that he might get even with

a king. This good God committed every possible

crime.

_Second_. The statement that man is a lost sinner

is not true. There are thousands and thousands of

magnificent Pagans--men ready to die for wife, or

child, or even for friend, and the history of Pagan

countries is filled with self-denying and heroic acts.

If man is a failure, the infinite God, if there be one,

is to blame. Is it possible that the God of Mr. Tal-

mage could not have made man a success? Accord-

ing to the Bible, his God made man knowing that in

about fifteen hundred years he would have to drown

all his descendants.

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Why would a good God create a man that he

knew would be a sinner all his life, make hundreds

of thousands of his fellow-men unhappy, and who at

last would be doomed to an eternity of suffering?

Can such a God be good? How could a devil have

done worse?

_Third._ If God is infinitely good, is he not fully as

sympathetic as Christ? Do you have to employ

Christ to mollify a being of infinite mercy? Is Christ

any more willing to take to his heart the whole world

than his Father is? Personally, I have not the

slightest objection in the world to anybody believing

in an infinitely good and kind God--not the slightest

objection to any human being worshiping an infi-

nitely tender and merciful Christ--not the slightest

objection to people preaching about heaven, or about

the glories of the future state--not the slightest.

_Fourth_. I object to the doctrine of two destinies

for the human race. I object to the infamous false-

hood of eternal fire. And yet, Mr. Talmage is en-

deavoring to poison the imagination of men, women

and children with the doctrine of an eternal hell.

Here is what he preaches, taken from the "Constitu-

"tion of the Presbyterian Church of the United

"States:"

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"By the decrees of God, for the manifestation of

"his glory, some men and angels are predestinated

"to everlasting life, and others foreordained to ever-

"lasting death."

That is the doctrine of Mr. Talmage. He wor-

ships a God who damns people "for the manifesta-

"tion of his glory,"--a God who made men, knowing

that they would be damned--a God who damns

babes simply to increase his reputation with the

angels. This is the God of Mr. Talmage. Such a

God I abhor, despise and execrate.

_Question_. What does Mr. Talmage think of man-

kind? What is his opinion of the "unconverted"?

How does he regard the great and glorious of the

earth, who have not been the victims of his particular

superstition? What does he think of some of the

best the earth has produced?

_Answer_. I will tell you how he looks upon all

such. Read this from his "Confession of Faith:"

"Our first parents, being seduced by the subtlety

"of the tempter, sinned in eating the forbidden fruit.

"By this sin, they fell from their original righteous-

"ness and communion with God, and so became

"dead in sin, and wholly defiled in all the faculties

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"and parts of soul and body; and they being the

"root of all mankind, the guilt of this sin was

"imputed, and the same death in sin and corrupted

"nature conveyed to all their posterity. From this

"original corruption--whereby we are utterly indis-

"posed, disabled, and made opposite to all good,

"and wholly inclined to all evil, do proceed all actual

"transgressions."

This is Mr. Talmage's view of humanity.

Why did his God make a devil? Why did he

allow the devil to tempt Adam and Eve? Why did

he leave innocence and ignorance at the mercy of

subtlety and wickedness? Why did he put "the

"tree of the knowledge of good and evil" in the

garden? For what reason did he place temptation

in the way of his children? Was it kind, was it just,

was it noble, was it worthy of a good God? No

wonder Christ put into his prayer: "Lead us not

"into temptation."

At the time God told Adam and Eve not to eat,

why did he not tell them of the existence of Satan?

Why were they not put upon their guard against the

serpent? Why did not God make his appearance

just before the sin, instead of just after. Why did

he not play the role of a Savior instead of that of a

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detective? After he found that Adam and Eve had

sinned--knowing as he did that they were then

totally corrupt--knowing that all their children

would be corrupt, knowing that in fifteen hundred

years he would have to drown millions of them, why

did he not allow Adam and Eve to perish in accord-

ance with natural law, then kill the devil, and make a

new pair?

When the flood came, why did he not drown all?

Why did he save for seed that which was "perfectly

"and thoroughly corrupt in all its parts and facul-

"ties"? If God had drowned Noah and his sons

and their families, he could have then made a new

pair, and peopled the world with men not "wholly

"defiled in all their faculties and parts of soul and

"body."

Jehovah learned nothing by experience. He per-

sisted in his original mistake. What would we think

of a man who finding that a field of wheat was

worthless, and that such wheat never could be

raised with profit, should burn all of the field with the

exception of a few sheaves, which he saved for seed?

Why save such seed? Why should God have pre-

served Noah, knowing that he was totally corrupt,

and that he would again fill the world with infamous

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people--people incapable of a good action? He

must have known at that time, that by preserving

Noah, the Canaanites would be produced, that these

same Canaanites would have to be murdered, that

the babes in the cradles would have to be strangled.

Why did he produce them? He knew at that time,

that Egypt would result from the salvation of Noah,

that the Egyptians would have to be nearly de-

stroyed, that he would have to kill their first-born,

that he would have to visit even their cattle with

disease and hailstones. He knew also that the

Egyptians would oppress his chosen people for two

hundred and fifteen years, that they would upon the

back of toil inflict the lash. Why did he preserve

Noah? He should have drowned all, and started

with a new pair. He should have warned them

against the devil, and he might have succeeded, in

that way, in covering the world with gentlemen and

ladies, with real men and real women.

We know that most of the people now in the

world are not Christians. Most who have heard the

gospel of Christ have rejected it, and the Presby-

terian Church tells us what is to become of all these

people. This is the "glad tidings of great joy."

Let us see:

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"All mankind, by their fall, lost communion with

"God, are under his wrath and curse, and so made

"liable to all the miseries of this life, to death itself,

"and to the pains of hell forever."

According to this good Presbyterian doctrine, all

that we suffer in this world, is the result of Adam's

fall. The babes of to-day suffer for the crime of the

first parents. Not only so; but God is angry at us

for what Adam did. We are under the wrath of an

infinite God, whose brows are corrugated with eternal

hatred.

Why should God hate us for being what we are

and necessarily must have been? A being that God

made--the devil--for whose work God is responsible,

according to the Bible wrought this woe. God of his

own free will must have made the devil. What did

he make him for? Was it necessary to have a devil

in heaven? God, having infinite power, can of

course destroy this devil to-day. Why does he per-

mit him to live? Why did he allow him to thwart his

plans? Why did he permit him to pollute the inno-

cence of Eden? Why does he allow him now to

wrest souls by the million from the redeeming hand

of Christ?

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