And I reached up and there was a couple of drops of blood. And he said,
Where were you standing?
And I says, "Right down here." We walked 15 feet away when this deputy
sheriff said, "Look here on the curb." There was a mark quite obviously
that was a bullet, and it was very fresh.
We turned around and we looked back up to see where this possibly could
have come from, and the policeman thought he had seen something over
here.
Mr. LIEBELER. Well, now, I have some pictures here and I will show you
to indicate these places, an aerial view of the whole area, Commission
Exhibit No. 354. Of course, the Texas School Book Depository Building
is here on the left, and this is the triple underpass here, and this,
of course, is Commerce Street going toward the east.
As I understand it, your car was just nosed out in the left-hand lane
of Commerce Street and was just out from under the railroad tracks
that go over the triple underpass, so the nose of your car was on the
easternmost portion, on the eastern side of the railroad tracks that go
over the triple underpass, is that correct?
Mr. TAGUE. That is correct.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now did you get out of your car?
Mr. TAGUE. Right.
Mr. LIEBELER. What did you do? Did you stay near your car or did you
walk on the area toward the grassy plaza?
Mr. TAGUE. I was standing 3 or 4 feet in front of the concrete
embankment right here [pointing].
Mr. LIEBELER. Let's make a No. 6 on this picture as to where you were
standing. This is the concrete strip that runs between Commerce and
Main Street right here?
Mr. TAGUE. I was standing about right there.
Mr. LIEBELER. At No. 6?
Mr. TAGUE. Yes; right.
Mr. LIEBELER. Now, that is where you were standing when you apparently
got hit with this flying, whatever it was?
Mr. TAGUE. Right.
Mr. LIEBELER. Then after you had run into this deputy sheriff, you
looked along the street and you saw what you thought to be a mark made
by a----
Mr. TAGUE. A motorcycle was parked here and the policeman was here on
the grass right here, and there was a swarm of people around him.
Mr. LIEBELER. At No. 7. Let's put a No. 7 there.
Mr. TAGUE. This man was relating his story of how he was standing right
there as he witnessed the facts. He said it looked like the President's
head exploded. And I said I felt something hit me. We walked down here.
Mr. LIEBELER. Toward No. 6?
Mr. TAGUE. Right. When we got within about 20 feet, the deputy sheriff
spotted the place about 12 to 15 feet out from the embankment on the
curb, and turned around, and we looked up here where the policeman
originally ran up on the grass here.
Mr. LIEBELER. There is an area circled here with the letter "C" in it.
Is that where the policeman ran toward the grassy area; included in
that circle, is that right?
Mr. TAGUE. Right. I pointed this out, and we turned around and looked
toward the School Book Depository, and from the reflection of the sun
it was something on the window. Not the--well, it is maybe five or six
windows which were open, which it was not the window that proved to be
where the shots were fired, but it was a different window like it had
spider webs or dust, and maybe shots had come through the window.
We said maybe this is where they came from. And the deputy sheriff ran
back to the policeman. I may not be quite accurate, but I believe at
the time there was a whole swarm of motorcycle policemen coming back to
the area under the underpass going the wrong way here on Elm.
They came back and parked, and he mentioned to them--that is probably 5
minutes after it happened, and he was on the radio, and everybody ran
up around the School Book Depository at this time.
Mr. LIEBELER. Let's go back and fix the general spot when the deputy
sheriff saw the mark on the street, going back to point No. 6, which is
where you were standing when you were hit. We go east along----
Mr. TAGUE. Right here is a curb.