There are two different views of it--there's one and here's one. That
was before anything was touched and before it was dusted. This is a
shot--I believe that's in the third aisle and let's see what it is
marked--it's the sixth floor of 411 Elm Street looking south and the
third aisle from Houston Street on the south side of the building.
That was taken looking directly into that--this is the sack with those
chicken bones and all that mess was in there too.
Mr. BALL. Is the sack shown there?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes; it's a little ole brown sack--yes; it's right
there.
Mr. BALL. We will mark this as "Exhibit H," which is your No. 6.
(Instrument marked by the reporter as "Studebaker Exhibit H," for
identification.)
Mr. BALL. That's the sack, is that right?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.
Mr. BALL. And it shows--it has some chicken bones in it?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Any chicken bones in any other place?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. No.
Mr. BALL. None outside the sack?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. No; they were all inside the sack, wrapped up and put
right back in. It had a little piece of Fritos in the sack, too.
Mr. BALL. Then, we will have the next picture marked Exhibit I, which
shows the Dr. Pepper bottle with the two-wheeler, is that right?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes, sir.
(Instrument marked by the reporter as "Studebaker Exhibit I," for
identification.)
Mr. BALL. And that's your No. 7.
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. That's the third row over?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. That's the third aisle from Houston Street.
Mr. BALL. That would be the third set of windows?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. That would be the third set of windows--it would
be--one, two, three.
Mr. BALL. The third set of windows from Houston Street--you mark it.
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.
(Instrument marked by the witness Studebaker as requested by Counsel
Ball.)
Mr. BALL. Now, did you see a chicken bone over near the boxes in the
southeast corner, over near where you found the cartridges and the
paper sack?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. I don't believe there was one there.
Mr. BALL. You didn't see any. One witness, a deputy sheriff named Luke
Looney said he found a piece of chicken partly eaten up on top of one
of the boxes; did you see anything like that?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. No.
Mr. BALL. Was anything like that called to your attention?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. I can't recall anything like that. It ought to be in
one of these pictures, if it is.
Mr. BALL. You made a map of that sixth floor and identified pictures by
numbers, did you not?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. You made a measurement of the distance from the window ledge
to the sidewalk, didn't you?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. How many feet?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Let me see--61 feet from the window ledge to the
sidewalk.
Mr. BALL. Now, this is such a good set of pictures, can we have them?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. You will have to see Chief Curry. He gave orders that
no pictures were to be released without his permission. You can call
him, if you want to.
Mr. BALL. Well, I already have taken some of them.
Mr. STUDEBAKER. I'm sure he will. We have printed about 10,000 of
them--it seems like that and I don't imagine that two or three more
would make any difference. This is out of a master set--all of these
pictures you have here.
Mr. BALL. The picture of the boxes; this is after they were moved?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes, sir; they were moved there. This is exactly the
position they were in.
Mr. BALL. It is?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes--not--this was after they were moved, but I put
them back in the same exact position.
Mr. BALL. Were they that close--that was about the position?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Let's take one of these pictures and mark it the next number,
which will be "Exhibit J."
(Instrument marked by the reporter as "Studebaker Exhibit J," for
identification.)
Mr. BALL. After the boxes of Rolling Readers had been moved, you put
them back in the same position?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.
Mr. BALL. And took a picture?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And this is Exhibit J, is it, is that right?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Exhibit J, yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Now, the box that had the print on it is shown?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Let's put a few hieroglyphics on here--a few numbers on here.
Let's put the box with the print that was found as 1.
Mr. STUDEBAKER. You want 1 marked on this box?
(Witness Studebaker marked instrument as requested by Counsel Ball.)
Mr. BALL. And the place where the paper sack was found as No. 2 and the
box that had the indentation on it, let's mark it No. 3.