Mr. BALL. Did you hear anything?
Mr. APPLIN. Well, about the only thing I heard was the snap of the gun
and the officer saying, "Here he is."
Mr. BALL. You heard the snap of a gun?
Mr. APPLIN. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Are you familiar with guns?
Mr. APPLIN. Well, yes, sir; I am familiar with a few guns.
Mr. BALL. Pistols? Have you ever shot a pistol?
Mr. APPLIN. Yes, sir; I have shot my daddy's nine-shot .22 pistol.
Mr. BALL. Sounded like a hammer of a pistol falling?
Mr. APPLIN. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Then what happened after that? You say several officers came
down?
Mr. APPLIN. Yes, sir; they started wrestling and scuffling with him.
Mr. BALL. How many of them?
Mr. APPLIN. Well, there was about five officers, I believe.
Mr. BALL. Did you see any officers strike him?
Mr. APPLIN. I seen one strike him with a shotgun.
Mr. BALL. How did he do it?
Mr. APPLIN. He grabbed the muzzle of the gun and drawed it back and
swung and hit him in the back.
Mr. BALL. With what?
Mr. APPLIN. With the butt end of the gun.
Mr. BALL. Looked like a hard blow?
Mr. APPLIN. Yes, sir; it--I guess it was. You could--yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And he struck Oswald where?
Mr. APPLIN. In the back.
Mr. BALL. What part of the back?
Mr. APPLIN. Well, somewheres along in the middle of the back,
somewheres.
Mr. BALL. With the butt end of a shotgun?
Mr. APPLIN. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did you see the officer strike Oswald with his fist?
Mr. APPLIN. No, sir; I do not believe so.
Mr. BALL. Now, how many officers were struggling with Oswald when you
saw the officer strike him with the butt end of the shotgun?
Mr. APPLIN. I believe about four.
Mr. BALL. Did you ever see them handcuff Oswald?
Mr. APPLIN. Uhuh?
Mr. BALL. Did you see them handcuff the man?
Mr. APPLIN. No, sir; I didn't actually see the handcuffing.
Mr. BALL. What did you see them do after the struggle?
Mr. APPLIN. Well, they were scuffling, and they were over to the
middle, about the far side of the aisle, and come up the other side of
the aisle.
Mr. BALL. With the man?
Mr. APPLIN. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And then when they went out, did they come out through the
doors?
Mr. APPLIN. Yes, sir; they came up through and one of the officers
hollered out, "Don't let nobody see him," and they came in right behind
me.
Mr. BALL. In behind you?
Mr. APPLIN. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And went on out?
Mr. APPLIN. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And did you go out and follow them out?
Mr. APPLIN. No, sir; I went out to the candy counter out there and
the officer said, if there's anybody in there that seen it--and
asked--there was about two or three, the candyman himself, and
said--that one boy said that he seen him, through the front--I mean out
from behind the picture where it came out--supposed to came out behind
the picture.
Mr. BALL. Did you give them your name there?
Mr. APPLIN. He asked my name and address and where I was staying at the
time.
Mr. BALL. Later did you go down to the police station and make a
statement?
Mr. APPLIN. Yes, sir; I did.
Mr. BALL. When?
Mr. APPLIN. Well, it was after--I guess after they got everybody's
name. I rode down with three officers.
Mr. BALL. That same day, did you?
Mr. APPLIN. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. You didn't go back to the picture show?
Mr. APPLIN. Yes, sir; I did. There was a patrolman that carried me back
out and I was going to see the rest of it, but I never did get back in
time to.
Mr. BALL. You didn't get to see the show?
Mr. APPLIN. Well, I seen part of it, but I didn't get to see all of it.
Mr. BALL. Did you ever see the man they arrested at the theatre?
Mr. APPLIN. No, sir; I didn't see him after that.
Mr. BALL. Now, I have talked to you a little while before we took your
deposition, didn't I?
Mr. APPLIN. I wasn't actually; no, sir.