Mr. BALL. You did not?
Mr. GIBSON. Not that I saw.
Mr. BALL. Did you hear anybody say anything?
Mr. GIBSON. Well, I heard the officers, but I don't remember what they
said--I couldn't tell you if my life depended on it.
Mr. BALL. Did you hear Oswald say anything?
Mr. GIBSON. No.
Mr. BALL. You mentioned the fact that they took him to the floor, you
mean they actually went down in the floor of the theatre or close to it?
Mr. GIBSON. Well, from where I was standing and looking across--they
took him to the floor.
Mr. BALL. Were there any seats in the way when they fell?
Mr. GIBSON. No; I was standing up--yes; there was seats in the way, but
I was looking at an angle.
Mr. BALL. Did Oswald fall on the seats or on the floor?
Mr. GIBSON. They fell on the floor as best I could tell.
Mr. BALL. Then what did you see happen?
Mr. GIBSON. I didn't see anything happen--I walked back to the front.
Mr. BALL. Did you see Oswald leave the theatre?
Mr. GIBSON. Yes; I saw the officers bring him out.
Mr. BALL. Describe what you saw at that time--I want to know how they
had ahold of him?
Mr. GIBSON. Well, right after they took him to the floor, as I said,
he had a gun in his hand and I turned around and walked back into the
lobby, the front part of the theatre, and just right after I walked out
into the lobby, one of the policemen yelled, "Lock the doors," and so
I walked up and started locking the doors and the head usher, Butch,
came running out and he started at one end and I started at the other
end. There was six or eight doors in the front, and we locked them up
and then they brought Oswald through the door--there was two police
officers that had ahold of him, and his arms were bent around behind
him--like so [indicating].
Mr. BALL. And did the officer have his arm around his neck?
Mr. GIBSON. I don't know--I don't think so--he did have a black eye and
his shirt was about halfway torn off of him.
Mr. BALL. Did you hear Oswald say anything?
Mr. GIBSON. Yes.
Mr. BALL. What did he say?