CHAPTER XXX

VISIT OF SAMUEL ROGERS

1789

The author of the _Pleasures of Memory_, going to Scotland to make the

home tour, as it was called, then much in vogue, brought with him

letters of introduction to Smith from Dr. Price and Dr. Kippis, the

editor of the _Biographia Britannica_. The poet was then a young man

of twenty-three, who had published nothing but his _Ode to

Superstition_, and these old Unitarian friends of his father were as

yet his chief acquaintances in the world of letters. Their names,

notwithstanding the disparaging allusion Smith makes to Price in a

letter previously given, won for Rogers the kindest possible

reception, and even a continuous succession of civilities, of which he

has left a grateful record in the journal he kept during his tour.

This journal has been published in Mr. Clayden's _Early Tears of

Samuel Rogers_, and a few additional particulars omitted in it are

found in Dyce's published and Mitford's unpublished recollections of

Rogers's table-talk.

Rogers arrived in Edinburgh apparently on the 14th of July--that

momentous 14th of July 1789 which set the world aflame, though not a

spark of information of it had reached Edinburgh before he left the

city on the 21st; and on the morning of the 15th he walked down

Panmure Close and paid his first visit to the economist. He found

Smith sitting at breakfast quite alone, with a dish of strawberries

before him, and he has preserved some scraps of the conversation,

none of them in any way remarkable. Starting from the business then on

hand, Smith said that fruit was his favourite diet at that season of

the year, and that Scotland produced excellent strawberries, for the

strawberry was a northern fruit, and was at its best in Orkney or

Sweden. Passing to the subject of Rogers's tour, he said that

Edinburgh deserved little notice, that the old town had given Scotland

a bad name (for its filth, presumably), and that he himself was

anxious to remove to the newer quarters of the town, and had set his

heart on George Square (the place where Walter Scott was brought up

and Henry Dundas died). He explained that Edinburgh was entirely

supported by the three Courts of Session, Exchequer, and Justiciary

(possibly to account for the filth of the place, in accordance with

his theory that there was always more squalor and misery in a

residential than in an industrial town). While thus apparently

slighting or ignoring the beauties of Edinburgh, which were all there

then as they are now, he praised Loch Lomond highly. It was the finest

lake in Great Britain, the islands being very beautiful and forming a

very striking contrast to the shores. The conversation passed from the

scenery of Scotland to the soil, and Smith said Scotland had an

excellent soil, but a climate so severe that its harvests were too

often overtaken by winter before they were housed. The consequence was

that the Scotch on the Borders were still in extreme poverty, just as

he had noticed half a century before when he rode across the Borders

as a student to Oxford, and was greatly struck with the different

condition of things he saw as he approached Carlisle. From agriculture

they passed on to discuss the corn trade, and Smith denounced the

Government's late refusal of corn to France, saying it ought to excite

indignation and contempt, inasmuch as the quantity required was so

trifling that it would not support the population of Edinburgh for a

single day. The population of Edinburgh suggested their houses, and

Smith said that the houses were piled high on one another in Paris as

well as in Edinburgh. They then touched on Sir John Sinclair, of whom

Smith spoke disparagingly in certain aspects, but said that he never

knew a man who was in earnest and did not do something at last. Before

leaving to return to his hotel Rogers seems to have asked Smith if he

knew Mrs. Piozzi, who was then living there, and had called upon

Rogers after learning from the landlord that Smith and Robertson had

left cards for him, and Smith said he did not know her, but believed

she was spoiled by keeping company with odd people. Smith then invited

his visitor to dine with him next day at the usual Friday dinner of

the Oyster Club, and Rogers came away delighted with the interview,

and with the illustrious philosopher's genuine kindness of heart.

On Friday, as appointed, Rogers dined with the Oyster Club as Smith's

guest, but he has made no specific entry of the event in his journal,

and no record of the conversation. Black and Playfair seem to have

been there, and possibly other men of eminence; but the whole talk was

usurped by a commonplace member, and Smith felt--and possibly Rogers

too--that the day was lost. For next time they met Smith asked Rogers

how he liked the club, and said, "_That_ Bogle, I was sorry he talked

so much; he spoiled our evening." That Bogle was the Laird of

Daldowie, on the Clyde. His father had been Rector of Glasgow

University in Smith's professorial days, and one of his brothers,

George Bogle, attained some eminence through the embassy on which he

was sent by Warren Hastings to the Llama of Thibet, and his account of

which has been published quite recently; and the offender himself was

a man of ability and knowledge, who had been a West India merchant for

many years, was well versed in economic and commercial subjects, and

very fond of writing to the Government of the day long communications

on those subjects, which seem to have been generally read, and

sometimes even acted upon. In society, as we are told by one of his

relations, Mr. Morehead, he was generally considered very "tedious,

from the long lectures on mercantile and political subjects (for he

did not converse when he entered on these, but rather declaimed) which

he was in the habit of delivering in the most humdrum and monotonous

manner."[350] His tedious lectures must, however, have had more in

them than ordinary hearers appreciated, for Smith thought so highly of

Bogle's conversation that when he invited Rogers to the club on this

particular occasion he mentioned that Bogle, a very clever person, was

to be there, and said "I must go and hear Bogle talk."[351]

Rogers was with Smith again on Sunday the 19th, and used ever

afterwards to speak of that particular Sunday as the most memorable in

his life, for he breakfasted with Robertson, heard him preach in the

Old Greyfriars in the forenoon, heard Blair preach in the High Church

in the afternoon, drank coffee thereafter with Mrs. Piozzi, and

finished the day by supping with Adam Smith. He had called on Smith

"between sermons," as they say in Scotland, and apparently close on

the hour for service, since "all the bells of the kirks" were ringing.

But Smith was going for an airing, and his chair was at the door. The

sedan was much in vogue in Edinburgh at that period, because it

threaded the narrow wynds and alleys better than any other sort of

carriage was able to do. Smith met Rogers at the door, and after

exchanging the few observations about Bogle and the club to which I

have already alluded, he invited his young friend to come back to

supper in the evening, and also to dinner on Monday, because he had

asked Henry Mackenzie, the author of the _Man of Feeling_, to meet

him. "Who could refuse?" writes Rogers. Smith then set out in his

sedan, and Rogers walked up to the High Church to hear Blair.

Returning to Panmure House at nine, he found there, he says, all the

company who were at the club on Friday except Bogle and Macaulay, and

with the addition of a Mr. Muir from Göttingen. (I do not know who

Macaulay and Muir were.) They spoke of Junius, and Smith suspected

Single-speech Hamilton of the authorship, on the ground of the

well-known story, which seems to have been then new to Rogers, and

which Smith had been told by Gibbon, that on one occasion when

Hamilton was on a visit at Goodwood, he informed the Duke of Richmond

that there was a devilish keen letter from Junius in the _Public

Advertiser_ of that day, and mentioned even some of the points it

made; but when the Duke got hold of the paper he found the letter

itself was not there, but only an apology for its absence. From this

circumstance Hamilton's name came to be mentioned in connection with

the authorship of the letters, and they ceased to appear. Smith's

argument was that so long as the letters were attributed to men who

were not their writers, such as Lord Lansdowne or Burke, they

continued to go on, but immediately the true author was named they

stopped. The conversation passed on to Turgot and Voltaire and the

Duke of Richelieu, and its particulars have been stated already in

previous parts of this work.[352]

On Monday Rogers dined at Smith's house to meet Henry Mackenzie, as

had been arranged, and the other guests seem to have been the Mr. Muir

of the evening before and Mr. M'Gowan--John M'Gowan, Clerk of the

Signet, already referred to. Dr. Hutton came in afterwards and joined

them at tea. The chief share in the conversation seems to have been

taken by Mackenzie, who, as we know from Scott, was always "the life

of company with anecdotes and fun," and related on this occasion many

stories of second sight in the Highlands, and especially of the

eccentric Caithness laird, who used the pretension as a very effectual

instrument for maintaining authority and discipline among his

tenantry. They spoke much too about the poetesses,--Hannah More, and

Mrs. Charlotte Smith, and Mrs. John Hunter, the great surgeon's wife;

but it appears to have still been Mackenzie who bore the burden of the

talk. The only thing Rogers reports Smith as saying is a very ordinary

remark about Dr. Blair. They had been speaking, as was natural, about

the sermon which Rogers--and Mackenzie also--had heard the previous

afternoon on "Curiosity concerning the Affairs of Others," and one

passage in which, though it reads now commonplace enough in the

printed page, Rogers seems to have admired greatly. Smith observed

that Blair was too puffed up, and the worthy divine would have been

more or less than human if he had escaped the necessary effects of the

excessive popularity he so long enjoyed at once as a preacher and as a

critic. It will be remembered how Burns detested Blair's absurd

condescension and pomposity.

From Smith's the company seems to have proceeded in a body to a

meeting of the Royal Society, of which all were members except Muir

and Rogers himself. Before going Mackenzie repeated an epigram which

had been written on Smith sleeping at the meetings of this society,

but the epigram has not been preserved. Only seven persons were

present--Smith and his guests and the reader of the paper for the day,

who happened to be the economist, Dr. James Anderson, already

mentioned repeatedly in this book as the original propounder of

Ricardo's theory of rent. His paper was on "Debtors and the Revision

of the Laws that respect them," and Rogers says it was "very long and

dull," and, as a natural consequence, "Mr. Commissioner Smith fell

asleep, and Mackenzie touched my elbow and smiled,"[353]--a curious

tableau. When the meeting was over Rogers took leave of his host, went

to the play with Mrs. Piozzi, and, though he no doubt saw Smith again

before finally quitting Edinburgh, mentions him no more.

Having been so much with Smith during those few days, Rogers's

impressions are in some respects of considerable value. He was deeply

impressed with the warmth of Smith's kindness. "He is a very friendly,

agreeable man, and I should have dined and supped with him every day,

if I had accepted all his invitations."[354] He was very

communicative,[355] and to Rogers's surprise, considering the

disparity of their years and the greatness of his reputation, Smith

was "quite familiar." "Who shall we have to dinner?" he would ask.

Rogers observed in him no sign of absence of mind,[356] and felt that

as compared with Robertson, Smith was far more of a man who had seen

much of the world. His communicativeness impressed itself also upon

other casual visitors, because his first appearance sometimes gave

them the opposite suggestion of reserve. "He was extremely

communicative," says the anonymous writer who sent the first letter of

reminiscences to the editor of the _Bee_, "and delivered himself on

every subject with a freedom and boldness quite opposite to the

apparent reserve of his appearance."

Another visitor to Scotland that year who enjoyed a talk with Smith,

and has something interesting to communicate about the conversation,

is William Adam, barrister and M.P., afterwards Chief Commissioner of

the Jury Court in Scotland, who was a nephew of Smith's schoolfellow

and lifelong friend, Robert Adam, the architect. William Adam was an

intimate personal friend of Bentham since the days when they ate their

way to the bar together and spent their nights in endless discussions

about Hume's philosophy and other thorny subjects, and when in

Scotland in the summer of 1789 he met Smith, and drew the conversation

to his friend Bentham's recently published _Defence of Usury_. This

book, it will be remembered, was written expressly to controvert

Smith's recommendation of a legal limitation of the rate of interest,

and from this conversation with Adam there seems to be some ground for

thinking that the book had the very unusual controversial effect of

converting the antagonist against whom it was written. Smith's reason

for wanting to fix the legal rate of interest at a maximum just a

little above the ordinary market rate was to prevent undue facilities

being given to prodigals and projectors; but Bentham replied very

justly that, whatever might be said of prodigals, projectors at any

rate were one of the most useful classes a community could possess,

that a wise government ought to do all it could to encourage their

enterprise instead of thwarting it, and that the best policy therefore

was to leave the rate of interest alone. In conducting his polemic

Bentham wrote as an admiring pupil towards a venerated master, to whom

he said he owed everything, and over whom he could gain no advantage

except, to use his own words, "with weapons which you have taught me

to wield and with which you have furnished me; for as all the great

standards of truth which can be appealed to in this line owe, as far

as I can understand, their establishment to you, I can see scarce any

other way of convicting you of an error or oversight than by judging

you out of your own mouth."[357]

Smith was touched with the handsome spirit in which his adversary

wrote, and candidly admitted to Adam the force of his assaults. The

conversation is preserved in a letter written to Bentham on the 4th

December 1789 by another friend and fellow-barrister, George Wilson,

as he apparently had the story from Adam's own lips.

"Did we ever tell you," writes Wilson, "what Dr. Adam Smith said to

Mr. William Adam, the Council M.P., last summer in Scotland? The

Doctor's expressions were that 'the _Defence of Usury_ was the work of

a very superior man, and that tho' he had given him some hard knocks,

it was done in so handsome a way that he could not complain,' and

seemed to admit that you were right."[358] This admission, though

apparently not made in so many words by Smith, but rather inferred by

Adam from the general purport of the conversation, is still not far

removed from the confession so definitely reported that his position

suffered some hard knocks from the assaults of Bentham. After that

confession it is reasonable to think that if Smith had lived to

publish another edition of his work, he would have modified his

position on the rate of interest.

FOOTNOTES:

[350] Morehead's _Life of the Rev. R. Morehead_, p. 43.

[351] Add. MSS., 32, 566.

[352] See above, pp. 189, 190, 205.

[353] Clayden's _Early Life of Samuel Rogers_, p. 96.

[354] Clayden's _Early Life of Samuel Rogers_, p. 90.

[355] Dyce's _Recollections of the Table-talk of Samuel Rogers_, p.

45.

[356] Add. MSS., 32, 566.

[357] Bentham's _Works_, iii. 21.

[358] Bentham MSS., British Museum.

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