HELL OR SHEOL AND OTHER SUBJECTS.

_Question_. Colonel, have you read the revised Testament?

_Answer_. Yes, but I don't believe the work has been fairly done.

The clergy are not going to scrape the butter off their own bread.

The clergy are offensive partisans, and those of each denomination

will interpret the Scriptures their way. No Baptist minister would

countenance a "Revision" that favored sprinkling, and no Catholic

priest would admit that any version would be correct that destroyed

the dogma of the "real presence." So I might go through all the

denominations.

_Question_. Why was the word sheol introduced in place of hell,

and how do you like the substitute?

_Answer_. The civilized world has outgrown the vulgar and brutal

hell of their fathers and founders of the churches. The clergy

are ashamed to preach about sulphurous flames and undying worms.

The imagination of the world has been developed, the heart has

grown tender, and the old dogma of eternal pain shocks all civilized

people. It is becoming disgraceful either to preach or believe in

such a beastly lie. The clergy are beginning to think that it is

hardly manly to frighten children with a detected falsehood. Sheol

is a great relief. It is not so hot as the old place. The nights

are comfortable, and the society is quite refined. The worms are

dead, and the air reasonably free from noxious vapors. It is a

much worse word to hold a revival with, but much better for every

day use. It will hardly take the place of the old word when people

step on tacks, put up stoves, or sit on pins; but for use at church

fairs and mite societies it will do about as well. We do not need

revision; excision is what we want. The barbarism should be taken

out of the Bible. Passages upholding polygamy, wars of extermination,

slavery, and religious persecution should not be attributed to a

perfect God. The good that is in the Bible will be saved for man,

and man will be saved from the evil that is in that book. Why

should we worship in God what we detest in man?

_Question_. Do you think the use of the word sheol will make any

difference to the preachers?

_Answer_. Of course it will make no difference with Talmage. He

will make sheol just as hot and smoky and uncomfortable as hell,

but the congregations will laugh instead of tremble. The old

shudder has gone. Beecher had demolished hell before sheol was

adopted. According to his doctrine of evolution hell has been

slowly growing cool. The cindered souls do not even perspire.

Sheol is nothing to Mr. Beecher but a new name for an old mistake.

As for the effect it will have on Heber Newton, I cannot tell,

neither can he, until he asks his bishop. There are people who

believe in witches and madstones and fiat money, and centuries

hence it may be that people will exist who will believe as firmly

in hell as Dr. Shedd does now.

_Question_. What about Beecher's sermons on "Evolution"?

_Answer_. Beecher's sermons on "Evolution" will do good. Millions

of people believe that Mr. Beecher knows at least as much as the

other preachers, and if he regards the atonement as a dogma with

a mistake for a foundation, they may conclude that the whole system

is a mistake. But whether Mr. Beecher is mistaken or not, people

know that honesty is a good thing, that gratitude is a virtue, that

industry supports the world, and that whatever they believe about

religion they are bound by every conceivable obligation to be just

and generous. Mr. Beecher can no more succeed in reconciling

science and religion, than he could in convincing the world that

triangles and circles are exactly the same. There is the same

relation between science and religion that there is between astronomy

and astrology, between alchemy and chemistry, between orthodoxy

and common sense.

_Question_. Have you read Miss Cleveland's book? She condemns

George Eliot's poetry on the ground that it has no faith in it,

nothing beyond. Do you imagine she would condemn Burns or Shelley

for that reason?

_Answer_. I have not read Miss Cleveland's book; but, if the author

condemns the poetry of George Eliot, she has made a mistake. There

is no poem in our language more beautiful than "The Lovers," and

none loftier or purer than "The Choir Invisible." There is no

poetry in the "beyond." The poetry is here--here in this world,

where love is in the heart. The poetry of the beyond is too far

away, a little too general. Shelley's "Skylark" was in our sky,

the daisy of Burns grew on our ground, and between that lark and

that daisy is room for all the real poetry of the earth.

--_Evening Record_, Boston, Mass., 1885.

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