INGERSOLL AND BEECHER.*

[* The sensation created by the speech of the Rev. Henry

Ward Beecher at the Academy of Music, in Brooklyn, when he

uttered a brilliant eulogy of Col. Robert Ingersoll and

publicly shook hands with him has not yet subsided. A

portion of the religious world is thoroughly stirred up at

what it considers a gross breach of orthodox propriety.

This feeling is especially strong among the class of

positivists who believe that

"An Atheist's laugh's a poor exchange For Deity offended."

Many believe that Mr. Beecher is at heart in full sympathy

and accord with Ingersoll's teachings, but has not courage

enough to say so at the sacrifice of his pastoral position.

The fact that these two men are the very head and front of

their respective schools of thought makes the matter an

important one. The denouncement of the doctrine of eternal

punishment, followed by the scene at the Academy, has about

it an aroma of suggestiveness that might work much harm

without an explanation. Since Colonel Ingersoll's recent

attack upon the _personnel_ of the clergy through the

"Shorter Catechism" the pulpit has been remarkably silent

regarding the great atheist. "Is the keen logic and broad

humanity of Ingersoll converting the brain and heart of

Christendom?" was recently asked. Did the hand that was

stretched out to him on the stage of the Academy reach

across the chasm which separates orthodoxy from infidelity?

Desiring to answer the last question if possible, a _Herald_

reporter visited Mr. Beecher and Colonel Ingersoll to learn

their opinion of each other. Neither of the gentlemen was

aware that the other was being interviewed.]

_Question_. What is your opinion of Mr. Beecher?

_Answer_. I regard him as the greatest man in any pulpit of the

world. He treated me with a generosity that nothing can exceed.

He rose grandly above the prejudices supposed to belong to his

class, and acted as only a man could act without a chain upon his

brain and only kindness in his heart.

I told him that night that I congratulated the world that it had

a minister with an intellectual horizon broad enough and a mental

sky studded with stars of genius enough to hold all creeds in scorn

that shocked the heart of man. I think that Mr. Beecher has

liberalized the English-speaking people of the world.

I do not think he agrees with me. He holds to many things that I

most passionately deny. But in common, we believe in the liberty

of thought.

My principal objections to orthodox religion are two--slavery here

and hell hereafter. I do not believe that Mr. Beecher on these

points can disagree with me. The real difference between us is--

he says God, I say Nature. The real agreement between us is--we

both say--Liberty.

_Question_. What is his forte?

_Answer_. He is of a wonderfully poetic temperament. In pursuing

any course of thought his mind is like a stream flowing through

the scenery of fairyland. The stream murmurs and laughs while the

banks grow green and the vines blossom.

His brain is controlled by his heart. He thinks in pictures. With

him logic means mental melody. The discordant is the absurd.

For years he has endeavored to hide the dungeon of orthodoxy with

the ivy of imagination. Now and then he pulls for a moment the

leafy curtain aside and is horrified to see the lizards, snakes,

basilisks and abnormal monsters of the orthodox age, and then he

utters a great cry, the protest of a loving, throbbing heart.

He is a great thinker, a marvelous orator, and, in my judgment,

greater and grander than any creed of any church.

Besides all this, he treated me like a king. Manhood is his forte,

and I expect to live and die his friend.

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