THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 23.

I took _Fingal_ down to the parlour in the morning, and tried a test

proposed by Mr. Roderick M'Leod, son to Ulinish. Mr. M'Queen had said he

had some of the poem in the original. I desired him to mention any

passage in the printed book, of which he could repeat the original. He

pointed out one in page 50 of the quarto edition, and read the Erse,

while Mr. Roderick M'Leod and I looked on the English;--and Mr. M'Leod

said, that it was pretty like what Mr. M'Queen had recited. But when Mr.

M'Queen read a description of Cuchullin's sword in Erse, together with a

translation of it in English verse, by Sir James Foulis, Mr. M'Leod

said, that was much more like than Mr. M'Pherson's translation of the

former passage. Mr. M'Queen then repeated in Erse a description of one

of the horses in Cuchillin's car. Mr. M'Leod said, Mr. M'Pherson's

English was nothing like it.

When Dr. Johnson came down, I told him that I had now obtained some

evidence concerning _Fingal_; for that Mr. M'Queen had repeated a

passage in the original Erse, which Mr. M'Pherson's translation was

pretty like; and reminded him that he himself had once said, he did not

require Mr. M'Pherson's _Ossian_ to be more like the original than

Pope's _Homer_. JOHNSON. 'Well, Sir, this is just what I always

maintained. He has found names, and stories, and phrases, nay, passages

in old songs, and with them has blended his own compositions, and so

made what he gives to the world as the translation of an ancient poem.'

If this was the case, I observed, it was wrong to publish it as a poem

in six books. JOHNSON. 'Yes, Sir; and to ascribe it to a time too when

the Highlanders knew nothing of _books_, and nothing of _six_;--or

perhaps were got the length of counting six. We have been told, by

Condamine, of a nation that could count no more than four[668]. This

should be told to Monboddo; it would help him. There is as much charity

in helping a man down-hill, as in helping him up-hill.' BOSWELL. 'I

don't think there is as much charity.' JOHNSON. 'Yes, Sir, if his

_tendency_ be downwards. Till he is at the bottom he flounders; get him

once there, and he is quiet. Swift tells, that Stella had a trick, which

she learned from Addison, of encouraging a man in absurdity, instead of

endeavouring to extricate him[669].'

Mr. M'Queen's answers to the inquiries concerning _Ossian_ were so

unsatisfactory, that I could not help observing, that, were he examined

in a court of justice, he would find himself under a necessity of being

more explicit. JOHNSON. 'Sir, he has told Blair a little too much, which

is published[670]; and he sticks to it. He is so much at the head of

things here, that he has never been accustomed to be closely examined;

and so he goes on quite smoothly.' BOSWELL. 'He has never had any body

to work[671] him.' JOHNSON. 'No, Sir; and a man is seldom disposed to

work himself; though he ought to work himself, to be sure.' Mr. M'Queen

made no reply[672].

Having talked of the strictness with which witnesses are examined in

courts of justice, Dr. Johnson told us, that Garrick, though accustomed

to face multitudes, when produced as a witness in Westminster-hall, was

so disconcerted by a new mode of public appearance, that he could not

understand what was asked[673]. It was a cause where an actor claimed a

_free benefit_; that is to say, a benefit without paying the expence of

the house; but the meaning of the term was disputed. Garrick was asked,

'Sir, have you a free benefit?' 'Yes.' 'Upon what terms have you it?'

'Upon-the terms-of-a free benefit.' He was dismissed as one from whom no

information could be obtained. Dr. Johnson is often too hard on our

friend Mr. Garrick. When I asked him why he did not mention him in the

Preface to his _Shakspeare_[674] he said, 'Garrick has been liberally

paid for any thing he has done for Shakspeare. If I should praise him, I

should much more praise the nation who paid him. He has not made

Shakspeare better known[675]; he cannot illustrate Shakspeare; so I have

reasons enough against mentioning him, were reasons necessary. There

should be reasons _for_ it.' I spoke of Mrs. Montague's very high

praises of Garrick[676]. JOHNSON. 'Sir, it is fit she should say so

much, and I should say nothing. Reynolds is fond of her book, and I

wonder at it; for neither I, nor Beauclerk, nor Mrs. Thrale, could get

through it[677].' Last night Dr. Johnson gave us an account of the

whole process of tanning and of the nature of milk, and the various

operations upon it, as making whey, &c. His variety of information is

surprizing[678]; and it gives one much satisfaction to find such a man

bestowing his attention on the useful arts of life. Ulinish was much

struck with his knowledge; and said, 'He is a great orator, Sir; it is

musick to hear this man speak.' A strange thought struck me, to try if

he knew any thing of an art, or whatever it should be called, which is

no doubt very useful in life, but which lies far out of the way of a

philosopher and a poet; I mean the trade of a butcher. I enticed him

into the subject, by connecting it with the various researches into the

manners and customs of uncivilized nations, that have been made by our

late navigators into the South Seas. I began with observing, that Mr.

(now Sir Joseph) Banks tells us, that the art of slaughtering animals

was not known in Otaheité, for, instead of bleeding to death their

dogs, (a common food with them,) they strangle them. This he told me

himself; and I supposed that their hogs were killed in the same way. Dr.

Johnson said, 'This must be owing to their not having knives,--though

they have sharp stones with which they can cut a carcase in pieces

tolerably.' By degrees, he shewed that he knew something even of

butchery. 'Different animals (said he) are killed differently. An ox is

knocked down, and a calf stunned; but a sheep has its throat cut,

without any thing being done to stupify it. The butchers have no view to

the ease of the animals, but only to make them quiet, for their own

safety and convenience. A sheep can give them little trouble. Hales[679]

is of opinion, that every animal should be blooded, without having any

blow given to it, because it bleeds better.' BOSWELL. 'That would be

cruel.' JOHNSON. 'No, Sir; there is not much pain, if the jugular vein

be properly cut.' Pursuing the subject, he said, the kennels of

Southwark ran with blood two or three days in the week; that he was

afraid there were slaughter-houses in more streets in London than one

supposes; (speaking with a kind of horrour of butchering;) and, yet he

added, 'any of us would kill a cow rather than not have beef.' I said we

_could_ not. 'Yes, (said he,) any one may. The business of a butcher is

a trade indeed, that is to say, there is an apprenticeship served to it;

but it may be learnt in a month[680].'

I mentioned a club in London at the Boar's Head in Eastcheap, the very

tavern[681] where Falstaff and his joyous companions met; the members of

which all assume Shakspeare's characters. One is Falstaff, another

Prince Henry, another Bardolph, and so on. JOHNSON. 'Don't be of it,

Sir. Now that you have a name, you must be careful to avoid many things,

not bad in themselves, but which will lessen your character[682]. This

every man who has a name must observe. A man who is not publickly known

may live in London as he pleases, without any notice being taken of him;

but it is wonderful how a person of any consequence is watched. There

was a member of parliament, who wanted to prepare himself to speak on a

question that was to come on in the House; and he and I were to talk it

over together. He did not wish it should be known that he talked with

me; so he would not let me come to his house, but came to mine. Some

time after he had made his speech in the house, Mrs. Cholmondeley[683],

a very airy[684] lady, told me, 'Well, you could make nothing of him!'

naming the gentleman; which was a proof that he was watched. I had once

some business to do for government, and I went to Lord North's.

Precaution was taken that it should not be known. It was dark before I

went; yet a few days after I was told, 'Well, you have been with Lord

North.' That the door of the prime minister should be watched is not

strange; but that a member of parliament should be watched, or that my

door should be watched, is wonderful.'

We set out this morning on our way to Talisker, in Ulinish's boat,

having taken leave of him and his family. Mr. Donald M'Queen still

favoured us with his company, for which we were much obliged to him. As

we sailed along Dr. Johnson got into one of his fits of railing at the

Scots. He owned that they had been a very learned nation for a hundred

years, from about 1550 to about 1650; but that they afforded the only

instance of a people among whom the arts of civil life did not advance

in proportion with learning; that they had hardly any trade, any money,

or any elegance, before the Union; that it was strange that, with all

the advantages possessed by other nations, they had not any of those

conveniencies and embellishments which are the fruit of industry, till

they came in contact with a civilized people. 'We have taught you, (said

he,) and we'll do the same in time to all barbarous nations,--to the

Cherokees,--and at last to the Ouran-Outangs;' laughing with as much

glee as if Monboddo had been present. BOSWELL. 'We had wine before the

Union.' JOHNSON. 'No, Sir; you had some weak stuff, the refuse of

France, which would not make you drunk.' BOSWELL. 'I assure you, Sir,

there was a great deal of drunkenness.' JOHNSON. 'No, Sir; there were

people who died of dropsies, which they contracted in trying to get

drunk[685].'

I must here glean some of his conversation at Ulinish, which I have

omitted. He repeated his remark, that a man in a ship was worse than a

man in a jail[686]. 'The man in a jail, (said he,) has more room, better

food, and commonly better company, and is in safety.' 'Ay; but, (said

Mr. M'Queen,) the man in the ship has the pleasing hope of getting to

shore.' JOHNSON. 'Sir, I am not talking of a man's getting to shore; but

of a man while he is in a ship: and then, I say, he is worse than a man

while he is in a jail. A man in a jail _may_ have the _"pleasing hope"_

of getting out. A man confined for only a limited time, actually _has_

it.' M'Leod mentioned his schemes for carrying on fisheries with spirit,

and that he would wish to understand the construction of boats. I

suggested that he might go to a dock-yard and work, as Peter the Great

did. JOHNSON. 'Nay, Sir, he need not work. Peter the Great had not the

sense to see that the mere mechanical work may be done by any body, and

that there is the same art in constructing a vessel, whether the boards

are well or ill wrought. Sir Christopher Wren might as well have served

his time to a bricklayer, and first, indeed, to a brick-maker.'

There is a beautiful little island in the Loch of Dunvegan, called

_Isa_. M'Leod said, he would give it to Dr. Johnson, on condition of his

residing on it three months in the year; nay one month. Dr. Johnson was

highly amused with the fancy. I have seen him please himself with little

things, even with mere ideas like the present. He talked a great deal of

this island;--how he would build a house there,--how he would fortify

it,--how he would have cannon,--how he would plant,--how he would sally

out, and _take_ the isle of Muck;--and then he laughed with uncommon

glee, and could hardly leave off. I have seen him do so at a small

matter that struck him, and was a sport to no one else[687]. Mr. Langton

told me, that one night he did so while the company were all grave about

him:--only Garrick, in his significant smart manner, darting his eyes

around, exclaimed, '_Very_ jocose, to be sure!' M'Leod encouraged the

fancy of Doctor Johnson's becoming owner of an island; told him, that it

was the practice in this country to name every man by his lands; and

begged leave to drink to him in that mode: '_Island Isa_, your health!'

Ulinish, Talisker, Mr. M'Queen, and I, all joined in our different

manners, while Dr. Johnson bowed to each, with much good humour.

We had good weather, and a fine sail this day. The shore was varied with

hills, and rocks, and corn-fields, and bushes, which are here dignified

with the name of natural _wood_. We landed near the house of Ferneley, a

farm possessed by another gentleman of the name of M'Leod, who,

expecting our arrival, was waiting on the shore, with a horse for Dr.

Johnson. The rest of us walked. At dinner, I expressed to M'Leod the joy

which I had in seeing him on such cordial terms with his clan.

'Government (said he) has deprived us of our ancient power; but it

cannot deprive us of our domestick satisfactions. I would rather drink

punch in one of their houses, (meaning the houses of his people,) than

be enabled by their hardships to have claret in my own.[688]' This

should be the sentiment of every Chieftain. All that he can get by

raising his rents, is more luxury in his own house. Is it not better to

share the profits of his estate, to a certain degree, with his kinsmen,

and thus have both social intercourse and patriarchal influence?

We had a very good ride, for about three miles, to Talisker, where

Colonel M'Leod introduced us to his lady. We found here Mr. Donald

M'Lean, the young Laird of _Col_, (nephew to Talisker,) to whom I

delivered the letter with which I had been favoured by his uncle,

Professor M'Leod, at Aberdeen[689]. He was a little lively young man. We

found he had been a good deal in England, studying farming, and was

resolved to improve the value of his father's lands, without oppressing

his tenants, or losing the ancient Highland fashions.

Talisker is a better place than one commonly finds in Sky. It is

situated in a rich bottom. Before it is a wide expanse of sea, on each

hand of which are immense rocks; and, at some distance in the sea, there

are three columnal rocks rising to sharp points. The billows break with

prodigious force and noise on the coast of Talisker[690]. There are here

a good many well-grown trees. Talisker is an extensive farm. The

possessor of it has, for several generations, been the next heir to

M'Leod, as there has been but one son always in that family. The court

before the house is most injudiciously paved with the round blueish-grey

pebbles which are found upon the sea-shore; so that you walk as if upon

cannon-balls driven into the ground.

After supper, I talked of the assiduity of the Scottish clergy, in

visiting and privately instructing their parishioners, and observed how

much in this they excelled the English clergy. Dr. Johnson would not let

this pass. He tried to turn it off, by saying, 'There are different ways

of instructing. Our clergy pray and preach.' M'Leod and I pressed the

subject, upon which he grew warm, and broke forth: 'I do not believe

your people are better instructed. If they are, it is the blind leading

the blind; for your clergy are not instructed themselves.' Thinking he

had gone a little too far, he checked himself, and added, 'When I talk

of the ignorance of your clergy, I talk of them as a body: I do not mean

that there are not individuals who are learned (looking at Mr.

M'Queen[691]). I suppose there are such among the clergy in Muscovy. The

clergy of England have produced the most valuable books in support of

religion, both in theory and practice. What have your clergy done, since

you sunk into presbyterianism? Can you name one book of any value, on a

religious subject, written by them[692]?' We were silent. 'I'll help

you. Forbes wrote very well; but I believe he wrote before episcopacy

was quite extinguished.' And then pausing a little, he said, 'Yes, you

have Wishart AGAINST Repentance[693].' BOSWELL. 'But, Sir, we are not

contending for the superior learning of our clergy, but for their

superior assiduity.' He bore us down again, with thundering against

their ignorance, and said to me, 'I see you have not been well taught;

for you have not charity.' He had been in some measure forced into this

warmth, by the exulting air which I assumed; for, when he began, he

said, 'Since you _will_ drive the nail!' He again thought of good Mr.

M'Queen, and, taking him by the hand, said, 'Sir, I did not mean any

disrespect to you[694].'

Here I must observe, that he conquered by deserting his ground, and not

meeting the argument as I had put it. The assiduity of the Scottish

clergy is certainly greater than that of the English. His taking up the

topick of their not having so much learning, was, though ingenious, yet

a fallacy in logick. It was as if there should be a dispute whether a

man's hair is well dressed, and Dr. Johnson should say, 'Sir, his hair

cannot be well dressed; for he has a dirty shirt. No man who has not

clean linen has his hair well dressed.' When some days afterwards he

read this passage, he said, 'No, Sir; I did not say that a man's hair

could not be well dressed because he has not clean linen, but because

he is bald.'

He used one argument against the Scottish clergy being learned, which I

doubt was not good. 'As we believe a man dead till we know that he is

alive; so we believe men ignorant till we know that they are learned.'

Now our maxim in law is, to presume a man alive, till we know he is

dead. However, indeed, it may be answered, that we must first know he

has lived; and that we have never known the learning of the Scottish

clergy. Mr. M'Queen, though he was of opinion that Dr. Johnson had

deserted the point really in dispute, was much pleased with what he

said, and owned to me, he thought it very just; and Mrs. M'Leod was so

much captivated by his eloquence, that she told me 'I was a good

advocate for a bad cause.'

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