IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES, MARCH 1, 1841.

[AT the session of congress, the term of which expired with the

administration of Mr. Van Buren, the honorable Daniel Webster

resigned his seat in the senate, preparatory to taking office

under president Harrison, as secretary of state, which had

been offered to him by the president elect. Mr. Bates, of

Massachusetts, having presented to the senate the credentials of

the honorable Rufus Choate, who had been elected senator in the

place of Mr. Webster, the latter took his seat this day, (first

of March,) when Mr. Cuthbert, of Georgia, made some remarks

reflecting on the political character of Mr. Webster, in

connection with Mr. Clay, as his associate in the senate, which

called out Mr. Clay in reply, and occasioned the following

debate.]

MR. CUTHBERT said, that on the resignation of the late senator from

Massachusetts, (Mr. Webster,) he had charged upon that senator certain

opinions on the subject of southern institutions. This had led to a

discussion, in the course of which he, (Mr. Cuthbert,) had pledged

himself to prove certain points. The most important point was, that

Mr. Webster had avowed the doctrine, that congress had full power to

prohibit the slave-trade between the states. The next point was, that

the legislature of Massachusetts had maintained the same doctrines, and

quoted the opinions of that senator, (Mr. Webster,) to sustain them. He

had pledged himself to produce the document to support and justify the

charge.

After some discussion as to the point of order, and Mr. Cuthbert being

permitted to proceed, he then desired the clerk to read an extract

from a paper which he sent to the desk. It purported to be a memorial

drawn up by a committee, of which Mr. Webster was a member, expressing

the opinion, that congress had the power to prohibit the slave-trade

between the states.

Mr. Cuthbert then animadverted upon the remark made by Mr. Clay, on

the twenty-second of February, complimentary to Mr. Webster, and spoke

of three great crises in the history of the two gentlemen when they

differed in opinion――namely, on the late war with Great Britain; on the

compromise tariff; and on the subject of abolition petitions.

Mr. Clay regretted extremely that he had been called out in this way.

The discussion of the other day had, he ventured to say, satisfied

every member of that body, with the exception of the senator from

Georgia. He agreed with the senator from Vermont, (Mr. Phelps,) that

it was all out of order. There was no necessity to create an occasion

for the discussion. The distinguished gentleman from Massachusetts was

soon to be nominated to that body, and then would be the proper time

to bring out all the opposition to him. But the senator from Georgia

had appealed to the courtesy of gentlemen, and he, (Mr. Clay,) was not

willing to refuse the request.

No error could be greater than to judge of human character by a single

act, a single sentiment or opinion. We were not to expect perfect

coincidence in every thing abstract and practical.

[Mr. Cuthbert here addressed the chair.]

Mr. Clay said, I cannot be interrupted, Mr. President. I will not

permit an interruption. The practice is much too common, and especially

at the other end of the capitol. The senator from Georgia will have

ample opportunity to reply when I have concluded. What was the question;

what the subject of difference in the discussion? The senator from

Georgia alleges that the distinguished gentleman from Massachusetts has

expressed an opinion, in Faneuil hall, it was believed, that congress

had the power to regulate the trade in slaves between the states. On

this subject great diversity of opinion exists. The power to regulate

did not imply the power to prohibit. Congress possesses the power to

regulate foreign commerce, but it has no right to prohibit it.

But the senator from Georgia has adverted to the fact, that I and my

distinguished friend (Mr. Webster) have agreed on some questions, and

disagreed on others. Is there any thing unusual or singular in this?

The senator from South Carolina, (Mr. Calhoun,) and the senator from

Georgia, are now on the same side; have they always agreed? Was the

gentleman from Georgia ever a nullifier? [Mr. Cuthbert said, no.] No.

I presume there are many points of policy on which those gentlemen

differ. The only correct method of judging, is, to take human nature

in the _tout ensemble_, and not undertake to determine by a single

instance.

The senator from Georgia has referred to three subjects in which I

have differed with the gentleman from Massachusetts. The first was,

the late war with Great Britain. Mr. Webster had regarded that war as

unnecessary, and in that I think he was wrong. But there was another

war; a domestic war; a war waged by general Jackson against the

prosperity of the country; and where stood the senator from Georgia

in that war? The gallant Webster contended for the people through this

long war, with persevering ability, but the senator from Georgia was on

the other side.

In regard to the compromise act, the gentleman from Massachusetts

had been opposed to that healing measure. But how was it with other

senators, with whom the gentleman from Georgia was now coöperating?

The senator from Missouri, (Mr. Benton,) and the senator from New York,

(Mr. Wright,) both voted against the compromise; but the gentleman

finds no difficulty in acting with those gentlemen because they

disagreed with him on that measure.

As it regards abolition, so far as I know the opinions of Mr. Webster,

he is just as much averse to it as the senator from Georgia himself.

That there is danger impending, no one will deny. The danger is in

ultraism. The ultraism of a portion of the south on the one hand, and

from abolition on the other. It is to be averted by a moderate but firm

course; not being led off into extremes on the one side, or frightened

on the other. Mr. Webster and myself have differed on some subjects,

have coincided on others; and the senator from Georgia might have

referred to an instance in which he himself had voted with Mr. Webster,

and in opposition to me. I allude to the tariff of 1824. The substance

of the charge is, that Mr. Webster and myself have agreed on certain

matters, and disagreed on others; and if the senator from Georgia

should undertake to compute the several agreements and disagreements,

he would have to work out a more difficult problem than a friend of

mine in the other house, who had tried to ascertain whether Vermont or

Kentucky was the banner state.

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