IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, JANUARY, 1816.

[IN this speech, which was made in committee of the whole, on

a proposition to lay a direct tax for the purpose of providing

for the interest on the public debt, and for other objects, as

expressed in the report of the committee of ways and means, Mr.

Clay enters into a general view of the state of public affairs,

as they existed at the conclusion of the war with Great Britain.

His defence of the policy of the war, and of the treaty of peace

concluded by himself and the other commissioners at Ghent, will

be found interesting and valuable, as a portion of our national

history. On the present occasion, it will be observed, Mr. Clay

first boldly avows his sympathies for the cause of the patriots

of South America; thus shadowing forth, at this early period,

the feelings which prompted him, in 1818, to propose, in a

definite form, the recognition of their independence. This

speech concludes with a masterly, although rapid, sketch of

the true policy of the country, in which are seen the outlines

of the _American system_, a subject always prominent in the

thoughts of this statesman.]

MR. CLAY (speaker) said, the course had been pursued, ever since he had

had the honor of a seat on this floor, to select some subject during

the early part of the session, on which, by a general understanding,

gentlemen were allowed to indulge themselves in remarks on the existing

state of public affairs. The practice was a very good one, he said, and

there could be no occasion more proper than that of a proposition to

lay a direct tax.

Those who have for fifteen years past administered the affairs of

this government, have conducted this nation to an honorable point of

elevation, at which they may justly pause, challenge a retrospect, and

invite attention to the bright field of prosperity which lies before us.

The great objects of the committee of finance, in the report under

consideration, are, in the first place, to provide for the payment of

the public debts, and in the second, to provide for the support of the

government, and the payment of such expenses as should be authorized by

congress. The greater part of the debt, Mr. Clay admitted, had grown

out of the late war; yet a considerable portion of it consisted of

that contracted in the former war for independence, and a portion

of it, perhaps, of that which arose out of the wars with Tripoli and

Algiers. Gentlemen had, on this occasion, therefore, fairly a right to

examine into the course of administration heretofore, to demonstrate

the impolicy of those wars, and the injudiciousness of the public

expenditures generally. In the cursory view which he should take of

this subject, he must be allowed to say, he should pay no particular

attention to what had passed before, in debate. An honorable colleague

(Mr. Hardin) who spoke the other day, like another gentleman who

preceded him in debate, had taken occasion to refer to his (Mr. Clay’s)

late absence from this country on public business; but, Mr. Clay said,

he trusted, among the fruits of that absence were a greater respect

for the institutions which distinguish this happy country, a greater

confidence in them, and an increased disposition to cling to them.

Yes, sir; I was in the neighborhood of the battle of Waterloo, and some

lessons I did derive from it; but they were lessons which satisfied

me, that national independence was only to be maintained by national

resistance against foreign encroachments; by cherishing the interests

of the people, and giving to the whole physical power of the country

an interest in the preservation of the nation. I have been taught that

lesson; that we should never lose sight of the possibility, that a

combination of despots, of men unfriendly to liberty, propagating what

in their opinion constitutes the principle of legitimacy, might reach

our happy land, and subject us to that tyranny and degradation which

seems to be one of their objects in another country. The result of my

reflections is, the determination to aid with my vote in providing my

country with all the means to protect its liberties, and guard them

even from serious menace. Motives of delicacy, which the committee

would be able to understand and appreciate, prevented him from noticing

some of his colleague’s (Mr. Hardin’s) remarks; but he would take the

occasion to give him one admonition――that, when he next favored the

house with an exhibition of his talent for wit――with a display of those

elegant implements, for his possession of which, the gentleman from

Virginia had so handsomely complimented him――that he would recollect

that it is _bought_, and not _borrowed_ wit, which the adage recommends

as best. With regard to the late war with Great Britain, history, in

deciding upon the justice and policy of that war, will determine the

question according to the state of things which existed when that war

was declared. I gave a vote for the declaration of war. I exerted all

the little influence and talents I could command to make the war. The

war was made; it is terminated; and I declare with perfect sincerity,

if it had been permitted me to lift the veil of futurity, and to have

foreseen the precise series of events which has occurred, my vote would

have been unchanged. The policy of the war, as it regarded our state of

preparation, must be determined with reference to the state of things

at the time that war was declared. He need not take up the time of the

house, in demonstrating that we had cause sufficient for war. We had

been insulted and outraged, and spoilated upon by almost all Europe――by

Great Britain, by France, Spain, Denmark, Naples, and, to cap the

climax, by the little, contemptible power of Algiers. We had submitted

too long and too much. We had become the scorn of foreign powers,

and the contempt of our own citizens. The question of the policy of

declaring war at the particular time when it was commenced, is best

determined by applying to the enemy himself; and what said _he!_――that

of all the circumstances attending its declaration, none was so

aggravating as that we should have selected the moment which of

all others was most inconvenient to him; when he was struggling for

self-existence in a last effort against the gigantic power of France.

The question of the state of preparation for war at any time is a

relative question――relative to our own means, the condition of the

other power, and the state of the world at the time of declaring it.

We could not expect, for instance, that a war against Algiers would

require the same means or extent of preparation, as a war against Great

Britain; and if it was to be waged against one of the primary powers of

Europe, at peace with all the rest of the world, and therefore all her

force at command, it could not be commenced with so little preparation,

as if her whole force were employed in another quarter. It is not

necessary again to repel the stale, ridiculous, false story of French

influence, originating in Great Britain, and echoed here. I now contend,

as I have always done, that we had a right to take advantage of the

condition of the world, at the time war was declared. If Great Britain

were engaged in war, we had a right to act on the knowledge of the fact,

that her means of annoyance, as to us, were diminished; and we had a

right to obtain all the collateral aid we could, from the operations

of other powers against her, without entering into those connections

which are forbidden by the genius of our government. But it was rather

like disturbing the ashes of the dead, now to discuss the questions of

the justice or expediency of the war. They were questions long since

settled, and on which the public opinion was decisively made up, in

favor of the administration.

He proceeded to examine the conditions of the peace and the fruits of

the war――questions of more recent date, and more immediately applicable

to the present discussion. The terms of the peace must be determined by

the same rule that was applicable to the declaration of war――that rule

which was furnished by the state of the world at the time the peace

was made; and, even if it were true, that all the sanguine expectations

which might have been formed at the time of the declaration of war,

were not realized by the terms of the subsequent peace, it did not

follow that the war was improperly declared, or the peace dishonorable,

unless the condition of the parties, in relation to other powers,

remained substantially the same, throughout the struggle, and at the

time of the termination of the war, as it was at the commencement of

it. At the termination of the war, France was annihilated――blotted out

of the map of Europe; the vast power wielded by Bonaparte existed no

longer. Let it be admitted, that statesmen, in laying their course, are

to look at probable events; that their conduct is to be examined, with

reference to the course of events, which in all human probability might

have been anticipated; and is there a man in this house, in existence,

who can say, that on the eighteenth day of June, 1812, when the war

was declared, it would have been anticipated, that Great Britain, by

the circumstance of a general peace, resulting from the overthrow of

a power whose basements were supposed to be deeper laid, more ramified,

and more extended, than those of any power ever were before, would be

placed in the attitude in which she stood in December, 1814? Would any

one say, that this government could have anticipated such a state of

things, and ought to have been governed in its conduct accordingly?

Great Britain, Russia, Germany, did not expect――not a power in Europe

believed――as late even as January, 1814, that, in the ensuing March,

Bonaparte would abdicate, and the restoration of the Bourbons would

follow. What, then, was the actual condition of Europe, when peace

was concluded? A perfect tranquillity reigned throughout; for, as late

as the first of March, the idea of Napoleon’s reappearing in France,

was as little entertained as that of a man’s coming from the moon to

take upon himself the government of the country. In December, 1814,

a profound and apparently a permanent peace existed; Great Britain

was left to dispose of the vast force, the accumulation of twenty-five

years, the work of an immense system of finance and protracted war;

she was at liberty to employ that undivided force against this country.

Under such circumstances, it did not follow, according to the rules

laid down, either that the war ought not to have been made, or that

peace on such terms ought not to have been concluded.

What, then, were the terms of the peace? The regular opposition in this

country, the gentlemen on the other side of the house, had not come out

to challenge an investigation of the terms of the peace, although they

had several times given a sidewipe at the treaty, on occasions with

which it had no necessary connection. It had been sometimes said, that

we had gained nothing by the war, that the fisheries were lost, &c.

How, he asked, did this question of the fisheries really stand? By the

first part of the third article of the treaty of 1783, the right was

recognized in the people of the United States to take fish of every

kind on the Grand Bank, and on all the other banks of Newfoundland;

also in the gulf of St. Lawrence, and at all other places in the sea,

where the inhabitants of both countries used at any time to fish.

This right was a necessary incident to our sovereignty, although it is

denied to some of the powers of Europe. It was not contested at Ghent;

it has never been drawn in question by Great Britain. But by the same

third article it was further stipulated, that the inhabitants of the

United States shall have ‘liberty to take fish of every kind on such

part of the coast of Newfoundland as British fishermen shall use (but

not to dry or cure the same on that island), and also on the coasts,

bays, and creeks, of all other of his Britannic majesty’s dominions

in America; and that the American fishermen shall have liberty to dry

and cure fish in any of the unsettled bays, harbors, and creeks of

Nova Scotia, Magdalen islands, and Labrador, so long as the same shall

remain unsettled; but so soon as the same or either of them shall be

settled, it shall not be lawful for the said fishermen to dry or cure

fish at such settlement, without a previous agreement for that purpose

with the inhabitants, proprietors, or possessors of the ground.’ The

British commissioners, assuming that these liberties had expired by the

war between the two countries, at an early period of the negotiation,

declared that they would not be revived without an equivalent. Whether

the treaty of 1783 does not form an exception to the general rule,

according to which treaties are vacated by a war breaking out between

the parties, is a question on which he did not mean to express an

opinion. The first article of that treaty, by which the king of Great

Britain acknowledges the sovereignty of the United States, certainly

was not abrogated by the war; that all the other parts of the same

instrument, which define the limits, privileges, and liberties

attaching to that sovereignty, were equally unaffected by the

war, might be contended for with at least much plausibility. If we

determined to offer them the equivalent required, the question was,

what should it be? When the British commissioners demanded, in their

_projet_, a renewal to Great Britain of the right to the navigation of

the Mississippi, secured by the treaty of 1783, a bare majority of the

American commissioners offered to renew it, upon the condition that

the liberties in question were renewed to us. He was not one of that

majority. He would not trouble the committee with his reasons for

being opposed to the offer. A majority of his colleagues, actuated

he believed by the best motives, made, however, the offer, and it was

refused by the British commissioners.

If the British interpretation of the treaty of 1783 be correct, we have

lost the liberties in question. What the value of them really is, he

had not been able to meet with any two gentlemen who agreed. The great

value of the whole mass of our fishery interests, as connected with

our navigation and trade, was sufficiently demonstrated by the tonnage

employed; but of what was the relative importance of these liberties,

there was great contrariety of statements. They were liberties to be

exercised within a foreign jurisdiction, and some of them were liable

to be destroyed by the contingency of settlement. He did not believe,

that much importance attached to such liberties. And, supposing them to

be lost, we are, perhaps, sufficiently indemnified by the redemption of

the British mortgage upon the navigation of the Mississippi. This great

stream, on that supposition, is placed where it ought to be, in the

same independent condition with the Hudson, or any other river in the

United States.

If, on the contrary, the opposite construction of the treaty of 1783

be the true one, these liberties remain to us, and the right to the

navigation of the Mississippi, as secured to Great Britain by that

instrument, continues with her.

But he was surprised to hear a gentleman from the western country

(Mr. Hardin) exclaim, that we had gained nothing by the war. Great

Britain acquired, by the treaty negotiated by Mr. Jay, the right to

trade with the Indians within our territories. It was a right upon

which she placed great value, and from the pursuit of which she did not

desist without great reluctance. It had been exercised by her agents

in a manner to excite the greatest sensibility in the western country.

This right was clearly lost by the war; for, whatever may be the

true opinion as to the treaty of 1783, there can be no doubt that the

stipulations of that of 1794 no longer exist.

It had been said, that the great object, in the continuation of the

war, had been to secure our mariners against impressment, and that

peace was made without accomplishing it. With regard to the opposition,

he presumed that they would not urge any such argument. For, if their

opinion was to be inferred (though he hoped in this case it was not)

from that of an influential and distinguished member of the opposition,

we had reason to believe that they did not think the British doctrines

wrong on this subject. He alluded to a letter said to be written by a

gentleman of great consideration, residing in an adjoining state, to a

member of this house, in which the writer states, that he conceives the

British claim to be right, and expresses his hope that the president,

however he might kick at it, would be compelled to swallow the bitter

pill. If the peace had really given up the American doctrine, it would

have been, according to that opinion, merely yielding to the force

of the British right. In that view of the subject, the error of the

administration would have been in contending for too much in behalf

of this country; for he presumed there was no doubt, that, whether

right or wrong, it would be an important principle gained to secure

our seamen against British impressment. And he trusted in God that all

future administrations would rather err on the side of contending for

too much than too little for America.

But he was willing to admit, that the conduct of the administration

ought to be tried by their own opinions, and not those of the

opposition. One of the great causes of the war, and of its continuance,

was the practice of impressment exercised by Great Britain, and if

this claim has been admitted, by necessary implication or express

stipulation, the administration has abandoned the rights of our

seamen. It was with utter astonishment that he heard, that it had been

contended in this country, that because our right of exemption from the

practice had not been expressly secured in the treaty, it was therefore

given up! It was impossible that such an argument could be advanced

on the floor. No member who regarded his reputation would have dared

advance such an argument here.

Had the war terminated, the practice continuing, he admitted that

such might be a fair inference; and on some former occasion he had laid

down the principle, which he thought correct, that if the United States

did not make peace with Great Britain, the war in Europe continuing,

and therefore she continuing the exercise of the practice, without

any stipulation to secure us against its effects, the plain inference

would be, that we had surrendered the right. But what is the fact? At

the time of the conclusion of the treaty of peace, Great Britain had

ceased the practice of impressment; she was not only at peace with all

the powers of Europe, but there was every prospect of a permanent and

durable peace. The treaty being silent on the subject of impressment,

the only plain rational result was, that neither party had conceded its

rights, but they were left totally unaffected by it. He recollected to

have heard, in the British house of commons, whilst he was in Europe,

the very reverse of the doctrine advanced here on this subject. The

British ministry were charged by a member of the opposition with

having surrendered their right of impressment, and the same course of

reasoning was employed to prove it, as he understood was employed in

this country to prove our acquiescence in that practice. The argument

was this: the war was made on the professed ground of resistance

of the practice of impressment; the peace having been made without

a recognition of the right of America, the treaty being silent on

the subject, the inference was, that the British authorities had

surrendered the right――that they had failed to secure it, and, having

done so, had in effect yielded it. The member of the opposition in

England was just as wrong as any member of the house would be, who

should contend that the right of impressment is surrendered to the

British government. The fact, was, neither party had surrendered its

rights; things remain as though the war had never been made――both

parties are in possession of all the rights they had anterior to the

war. Lest it might be deduced that his sentiments on the subject of

impressment had undergone a change, he took the opportunity to say,

that, although he desired to preserve peace between Great Britain and

the United States, and to maintain between them that good understanding

calculated to promote the interest of each, yet, whenever Great Britain

should give satisfactory evidence of her design to apply her doctrine

of impressment as heretofore, he was, for one, ready to take up arms

again to oppose her. The fact was, that the two nations had been placed

in a state of hostility as to a practice growing out of the war in

Europe. The war ceasing between Great Britain and the rest of Europe,

left England and America engaged in a contest on an aggression which

had also practically ceased. The question had then presented itself,

whether the United States should be kept in war, to gain an abandonment

of what had become a mere abstract principle; or, looking at the

results, and relying on the good sense and sound discretion of both

countries, we should not recommend the termination of the war. When

no practical evil could result from the suspension of hostilities, and

there was no more than a possibility of the removal of the practice of

impressment, I, as one of the mission, consented with sincere pleasure

to the peace, satisfied that we gave up no right, sacrificed no honor,

compromited no important principle. He said, then, applying the rule

of the actual state of things, as that by which to judge of the peace,

there was nothing in the conditions or terms of the peace that was

dishonorable, nothing for reproach, nothing for regret.

Gentlemen have complained, that we had lost the islands in the bay

of Passamaquoddy. Have they examined into that question, and do they

know the grounds on which it stands? Prior to the war we occupied

Moose Island, the British Grand Menan. Each party claimed both islands;

America, because they are within the limits of the United States,

as defined by the treaty of 1783; and Great Britain, because, as she

alleges, they were in the exception contained in the second article

of that treaty as to islands within the limits of the province of

Nova Scotia. All the information which he had received concurred in

representing Grand Menan as the most valuable island. Does the treaty,

in stipulating for an amicable and equitable mode of settling this

controversy, yield one foot of the territory of the United States? If

our title to Moose Island is drawn in question, that of Great Britain

to Grand Menan is equally so. If we may lose the one, she may the

other. The treaty, it was true, contained a provision that the party

in possession, at the time of its ratification, may hold on until the

question of right is decided. The committee would observe, that this

stipulation, as to possession, was not limited to the moment of the

signature, but looked to the period of the ratification of the treaty.

The American commissioners had thought they might safely rely on the

valor of Massachusetts, or the arms of the United States, to drive

the invader from our soil; and had also hoped that we might obtain

possession of Grand Menan. It is true, they have been disappointed in

the successful application of the force of that state and of that of

the union. But it is not true that we have parted with the right. It

is fair to presume that Great Britain will, with good faith, coöperate

in carrying the stipulations into effect; and she has, in fact, already

promptly proceeded to the appointment of commissioners under the treaty.

What have we gained by the war? He had shown we had lost nothing

in rights, territory, or honor; nothing for which we ought to have

contended, according to the principles of the gentlemen on the other

side, or according to our own. Have we gained nothing by the war?

Let any man look at the degraded condition of this country before the

war――the scorn of the universe, the contempt of ourselves――and tell me,

if we have gained nothing by the war? What is our present situation?

Respectability and character abroad; security and confidence at home.

If we have not obtained, in the opinion of some, the full measure of

retribution, our character and constitution are placed on a solid basis,

never to be shaken. The glory acquired by our gallant tars, by our

Jacksons and our Browns on the land, is that nothing? True, we have had

our vicissitudes――that there were humiliating events which the patriot

could not review without deep regret. But the great account, when it

came to be balanced, thank God, would be found vastly in our favor. Is

there a man, he asked, who would have obliterated from the proud pages

of our history the brilliant achievements of Jackson, Brown, Scott,

and the host of heroes on land and sea whom he would not enumerate?

Is there a man who could not desire a participation in the national

glory acquired by the war?――yes, national glory; which, however

the expression may be condemned by some, must be cherished by every

genuine patriot. What do I mean by national glory? Glory such as

Hull, of the Constitution, Jackson, Lawrence, Perry, have acquired.

And are gentlemen insensible to their deeds? to the value of them,

in animating the country in the hour of peril hereafter? Did the

battle of Thermopylæ preserve Greece but once? Whilst the Mississippi

continues to bear the tributes of the Iron mountains and the Alleghany

to her Delta and to the Gulf of Mexico, the eighth of January shall be

remembered, and the glory of that day shall stimulate future patriots,

and nerve the arms of unborn freemen, in driving the presumptuous

invader from our country’s soil! Gentlemen may boast of their

insensibility to feelings inspired by the contemplation of such events.

But he would ask, does the recollection of Bunker’s hill, of Saratoga,

of York-town, afford them no pleasure? Every act of noble sacrifice to

the country――every instance of patriotic devotion to her cause――has its

beneficial influence. A nation’s character is the sum of its splendid

deeds. They constitute one common patrimony――the nation’s inheritance.

They awe foreign powers. They arouse and animate our own people.

Do gentlemen derive no pleasure from the recent transactions in the

Mediterranean? Can they regard unmoved the honorable issue of a war,

in support of our national rights, declared, prosecuted, and terminated

by a treaty in which the enemy submitted to a carte blanche, in the

short period of forty days? The days of chivalry are not gone. They

have been revived in the person of commodore Decatur, who, in releasing

from infidel bondage Christian captives――the subjects of a foreign

power――and restoring them to their country and their friends, has

placed himself beside the most renowned knights of former times. I

love true glory. It is this sentiment which ought to be cherished;

and in spite of cavils and sneers and attempts to put it down, it

will finally conduct this nation to that height to which God and

nature have destined it. Three wars, those who at present administer

this government may say, and say with proud satisfaction, they have

safely conducted us through. Two with powers, which, though otherwise

contemptible, have laid almost all Europe under tribute――a tribute

from which we are exonerated. The third, with one of the most gigantic

powers that the world ever saw. These struggles have not been without

their sacrifices, nor without their lessons. They have created, or

rather greatly increased, the public debt. They have taught, that,

to preserve the character we have established, preparation for war is

necessary.

The public debt exists. However contracted, the faith of the nation

is pledged for its redemption. It can only be paid by providing an

excess of revenue beyond expenditure, or by retrenchment. Did gentlemen

contend that the results of the report were inaccurate――that the

proceeds of the revenue would be greater, or the public expenses

less, than the estimate? On these subjects, he believed it would be

presumption in him, when the defence of the report was in such able

hands (Mr. Lowndes’s), to attempt its vindication. Leaving the task

to that gentleman, he should assume, for the present, its accuracy.

He would lay down a general rule, from which there ought never to be

a departure, without absolute necessity――that the expenses of the year

ought to be met by the revenue of the year. If in time of war it were

impossible to observe this rule, we ought, in time of peace, to provide

for as speedy a discharge of the debt contracted in the preceding war

as possible. This can only be done by an effective sinking fund, based

upon an excess of revenue beyond expenditure, and a protraction of the

period of peace. If in England the sinking fund had not fulfilled what

was promised, it was because of a failure to provide such a revenue,

and because the interests of peace in that country had been too few

and too short. From the revolution to 1812, a period of one hundred and

twenty-four years, there had been sixty-three years of war, and only

sixty-one of peace; and there had been contracted £638,129,577 of debt,

and discharged only £39,594,305. The national debt at the peace of

Utrecht amounted to £52,681,076, and during the peace which followed,

being twenty-seven years, from 1714 to 1740, there was discharged only

£7,231,503. When the operations of our sinking fund were contrasted

with those of Great Britain, they would be found to present the most

gratifying results. Our public debt, existing on the first day of

January, 1802, amounted to $78,754,568 70; and on the first of January,

1815, we had extinguished $33,873,463 98. Thus in thirteen years, one

half the period of peace that followed the treaty of Utrecht, we had

discharged more public debt than Great Britain did during that period.

In twenty-six years she did not pay much more than a seventh of her

debt. In thirteen years we paid more than a third of ours. If, then,

a public debt, contracted in a manner, he trusted, satisfactory to

the country, imposed upon us a duty to provide for its payment; if we

were encouraged, by past experience, to persevere in the application

of an effective sinking fund, he would again repeat, that the only

alternatives were the adoption of a system of taxation producing the

revenue estimated by the committee of ways and means, or by great

retrenchment of the public expenses.

In what respect can a reduction of the public expenses be effected?

Gentlemen who assailed the report on this ground have, by the

indefinite nature of the attack, great advantage on their side. Instead

of contenting themselves with crying out retrenchment! retrenchment!

a theme always plausible, an object always proper, when the public

interest will admit of it, let them point the attention of the house

to some specified subject. If they really think a reduction of the army

and navy, or either of them, be proper, let them lay a resolution upon

the table to that effect. They had generally, it was true, singled out,

in discussing this report, (and he had no objection to meet them in

this way, though he thought the other the fairest course,) the military

establishment. He was glad that the navy had fought itself into favor,

and that no one appeared disposed to move its reduction or to oppose

its gradual augmentation. But the ‘standing army’ is the great object

of gentlemen’s apprehensions. And those who can bravely set at defiance

hobgoblins, the creatures of their own fertile imaginations, are

trembling for the liberties of the people, endangered by a standing

army of ten thousand men. Those who can courageously vote against taxes,

are alarmed for the safety of the constitution and the country, at

such a force scattered over our extensive territory! This could not

have been expected, at least in the honorable gentleman (Mr. Ross),

who, if he had been storming a fort, could not have displayed more

cool, collected courage than he did, when he declared, that he would

show to Pennsylvania, that she had one faithful representative, bold

and independent enough to vote against a tax!

He had happened, very incidentally, the other day, and in a manner

which he had supposed could not attract particular attention, to state,

that the general condition of the world admonished us to shape our

measures with a view to the possible conflicts into which we might be

drawn; and he said, he did not know when he should cease to witness

the attacks made upon him in consequence of that general remark; when

he should cease to hear the cry of ‘standing army,’ ‘national glory,’

&c. &c. From the tenor of gentlemen’s observations, it would seem as

if, for the first time in the history of this government, it was now

proposed, that a certain regular force should constitute a portion of

the public defence. But from the administration of general Washington,

down to this time, a regular force, a standing army (if gentlemen

please), had existed, and the only question about it, at any time, had

been, what should be the amount. Gentlemen themselves, who most loudly

decry this establishment, did not propose an entire disbandment of it;

and the question, ever with them, is, not whether a regular force be

necessary, but whether a regular force of this or that amount be called

for by the actual state of our affairs.

The question is not, on any side of the house, as to the nature, but

the quantum of the force. He maintained the position, that, if there

was the most profound peace that ever existed; if we had no fears

from any quarter whatever; if all the world was in a state of the most

profound and absolute repose; a regular force of ten thousand men was

not too great for the purposes of this government. We knew too much,

he said, of the vicissitudes of human affairs, and the uncertainty

of all our calculations, not to know, that, even in the most profound

tranquillity, some tempest may suddenly arise, and bring us into

a state requiring the exertion of military force, which cannot be

created in a moment, but requires time for its collection, organization,

and discipline. When gentlemen talked of the force which was deemed

sufficient some twenty years ago, what did they mean? That this force

was not to be progressive? That the full grown man ought to wear the

clothes and habits of his infancy? That the establishment maintained by

this government, when its population amounted to four or five millions

only, should be the standard by which our measures should be regulated,

in all subsequent states of the country? If gentlemen meant this, as

it seemed to him they did, he and they should not agree. He contended,

that establishments ought to be commensurate with the actual state

of the country, should grow with its growth, and keep pace with its

progress. Look at that map (said he, pointing to the large map of the

United States, which hangs in the hall of representatives)――at the

vast extent of that country which stretches from the Lake of the Woods,

in the northwest, to the Bay of Fundy, in the east. Look at the vast

extent of our maritime coast; recollect we have Indians and powerful

nations conterminous on the whole frontier; and that we know not at

what moment the savage enemy, or Great Britain herself, may seek to

make war with us. Ought the force of the country to be graduated by the

scale of our exposure, or are we to be uninfluenced by the increase of

our liability to war? Have we forgotten that the power of France, as a

counterpoise to that of Great Britain, is annihilated――gone, never to

rise again, I believe, under the weak, unhappy, and imbecile race who

now sway her destinies? Any individual must, I think, come to the same

conclusion with myself, who takes these considerations into view, and

reflects on our growth, the state of our defence, the situation of the

nations of the world, and above all, of that nation with whom we are

most likely to come into collision――for it is in vain to conceal it;

this country must have many a hard and desperate tug with Great Britain,

let the two governments be administered how and by whom they may. That

man must be blind to the indications of the future, who cannot see that

we are destined to have war after war with Great Britain, until, if one

of the two nations be not crushed, all grounds of collision shall have

ceased between us. I repeat, if the condition of France were that of

perfect repose, instead of that of a volcano, ready to burst out again

with a desolating eruption; if with Spain our differences were settled;

if the dreadful war raging in South America were terminated; if the

marines of all the powers of Europe were resuscitated as they stood

prior to the revolution of France; if there was universal repose, and

profound tranquillity among all the nations of the earth; considering

the actual growth of our country, in my judgment, the force of ten

thousand men would not be too great for its exigences. Do gentlemen ask,

if I rely on the regular force entirely for the defence of the country?

I answer, it is for garrisoning and keeping in order our fortifications,

for the preservation of the national arms, for something like a safe

depository of military science and skill, to which we may recur in time

of danger, that I desire to maintain an adequate regular force. I know,

that in the hour of peril, our great reliance must be on the whole

physical force of the country, and that no detachment of it can be

exclusively depended on. History proves that no nation, not destitute

of the military art, whose people were united in its defence, ever

was conquered. It is true, that in countries where standing armies

have been entirely relied on, the armies have been subdued, and

the subjugation of the nation has been the consequence of it; but

no example is to be found of a united people being conquered, who

possessed an adequate degree of military knowledge. Look at the Grecian

republics, struggling successfully against the overwhelming force of

Persia; look more recently at Spain. I have great confidence in the

militia, and I would go with my honorable colleague (Mr. M’Kee), whose

views I know are honest, hand in hand, in arming, disciplining, and

rendering effective, the militia; I am for providing the nation with

every possible means of resistance. I ask my honorable colleague, after

I have gone thus far with him, to go a step further with me, and let us

retain the force we now have for the purposes I have already described.

I ask gentlemen who propose to reduce the army, if they have examined

in detail the number and extent of the posts and garrisons on our

maritime and interior frontier? If they have not gone through this

process of reasoning, how shall we arrive at the result that we can

reduce the army with safety? There is not one of our forts adequately

garrisoned at this moment; and there is nearly one fourth of them

that have not one solitary man. I said the other day, that I would

rather vote for the augmentation than the reduction of the army. When

returning to my country from its foreign service, and looking at this

question, it appeared to me that the maximum was twenty thousand, the

minimum ten thousand of the force we ought to retain. And I again say,

that rather than reduce I would vote to increase the present force.

A standing army had been deemed necessary, from the commencement of

the government to the present time. The question was only as to the

quantum of force; and not whether it should exist. No man who regards

his political reputation, would place himself before the people, on a

proposition for its absolute disbandment. He admitted a question as to

quantum might be carried so far as to rise into a question of principle.

If we were to propose to retain an army of thirty, or forty, or fifty

thousand men, then truly the question would present itself, whether

our rights were not in some danger from such a standing army; whether

reliance was to be placed altogether on a standing army, or on that

natural safe defence which, according to the habits of the country

and the principles of our government, is considered the bulwark of our

liberties. But, between five and ten thousand men, or any number under

ten thousand, it could not be a question of principle; for, unless

gentlemen were afraid of spectres, it was utterly impossible that

any danger could be apprehended from ten thousand men, dispersed on

a frontier of many thousand miles; here twenty or thirty, there an

hundred; and the largest amount, at Detroit, not exceeding a thin

regiment. And yet, brave gentlemen――gentlemen who are not alarmed at

hobgoblins――who can intrepidly vote _even against taxes_――are alarmed

by a force of this extent! What, he asked, was the amount of the

army in the time of Mr. Jefferson――a time, the orthodoxy of which had

been so ostentatiously proclaimed? It was true, when that gentleman

came into power, it was with a determination to retrench, as far as

practicable. Under the full influence of these notions, in 1802, the

bold step of wholly disbanding the army, never was thought of. The

military peace establishment was then fixed at about four thousand men.

But, before Mr. Jefferson went out of power, what was done――that is,

in April, 1808? In addition to the then existing peace establishment,

eight regiments, amounting to between five and six thousand men, were

authorized, making a total force precisely equal to the present peace

establishment. It was true, that all this force had never been actually

enlisted and embodied; that the recruiting service had been suspended;

and that at the commencement of the war we had far from this number;

and we have not now actually ten thousand men――being at least two

thousand deficient of that number. He adverted to what had been said,

on this and other occasions, of Mr. Jefferson’s not having seized

the favorable moment for war, which was afforded by the attack on the

Chesapeake. He had always entertained the opinion, he said, that Mr.

Jefferson on that occasion took the correct, manly, and frank course,

in saying to the British government, your officers have done this; it

is an enormous aggression; do you approve the act; do you make it your

cause, or not? That government did not sanction the act; it disclaimed

it, and promptly too; and although they for a long time withheld the

due redress, it was ultimately tendered. If Mr. Jefferson had used his

power to carry the country into a war at that period, it might have

been supported by public opinion, during the moment of fever, but it

would soon abate, and the people would begin to ask, why this war had

been made without understanding whether the British government avowed

the conduct of its officers, and so forth. If the threatening aspect of

our relations with England had entered into the consideration which had

caused the increase of the army at that time, there were considerations

equally strong at this time, with our augmented population, for

retaining our present force. If, however, there were no threatenings

from any quarter; if the relative force of European nations, and

the general balance of power existing before the French revolution

were restored; if South America had not made the attempt, in which he

trusted in God she would succeed, to achieve her independence; if our

affairs with Spain were settled, he would repeat, that ten thousand men

would not be too great a force for the necessities of the country, and

with a view to future emergences.

He had taken the liberty, the other day, to make some observations

which he might now repeat as furnishing auxiliary considerations for

adopting a course of prudence and precaution. He had then said, that

our affairs with Spain were not settled; that the Spanish minister

was reported to have made some inadmissible demands of our government.

The fact turned out as he had presented it. It appeared that what was

then rumor, was now fact; and Spain had taken the ground, not only

that there must be a discussion of our title to that part of Louisiana,

formerly called West Florida, (which it might be doubted whether it

ought to take place,) but had required that we must surrender the

territory first, and discuss the right to it afterwards. Besides this

unsettled state of our relations with Spain, he said, there were other

rumors, and he wished to God we had the same means of ascertaining

their correctness, as we had found of ascertaining the truth of the

rumor just noticed; it was rumored that the Spanish province of Florida

had been ceded, with all her pretensions, to Great Britain. Would

gentlemen tell him, then, that this was a time when any statesman would

pursue the hazardous policy of disarming entirely, of quietly smoking

our pipes by our firesides, regardless of impending danger? It might be

a palatable doctrine to some, but he was persuaded was condemned by the

rules of conduct in private life, by those maxims of sound precaution

by which individuals would regulate their private affairs. He did not

here mean to take up the question in relation to South America. Still,

it was impossible not to see, that, in the progress of things, we might

be called on to decide the question, whether we would or would not lend

them our aid. This opinion he boldly declared, and he entertained it,

not in any pursuit of vain glory, but from a deliberate conviction

of its being conformable to the best interests of the country; that,

having a proper understanding with foreign powers――that understanding

which prudence and a just precaution recommended――it would undoubtedly

be good policy to take part with the patriots of South America. He

believed it could be shown, that, on the strictest principles of public

law, we have a right to take part with them, that it is our interest

to take part with them, and that our interposition in their favor would

be effectual. But he confessed, with infinite regret, that he saw a

supineness on this interesting subject, throughout our country, which

left him almost without hope, that what he believed the correct policy

of the country would be pursued. He considered the release of any

part of America from the dominions of the old world, as adding to the

general security of the new. He could not contemplate the exertions of

the people of South America, without wishing that they might triumph,

and nobly triumph. He believed the cause of humanity would be promoted

by the interposition of any foreign power which should terminate the

contest between the friends and enemies of independence in that quarter,

for a more bloody and cruel war never had been carried on since the

days of Adam, than that which is now raging in South America; in

which not the least regard is paid to the laws of war, to the rights

of capitulation, to the rights of prisoners, nor even to the rights

of kindred. I do not offer these views, expecting to influence the

opinions of others; they are opinions, of my own. But, on the question

of general policy, whether or not we shall interfere in the war in

South America, it may turn out that, whether we will or will not choose

to interfere in their behalf, we shall be drawn into the contest in the

course of its progress. Among other demands by the minister of Spain,

is the exclusion of the flag of Buenos Ayres, and other parts of South

America, from our ports. Our government has taken a ground on this

subject, of which I think no gentleman can disapprove――that all parties

shall be admitted and hospitably treated in our ports, provided they

conform to our laws whilst among us. What course Spain may take on this

subject, it was impossible now to say. Although I would not urge this

as an argument for increasing our force, I would place it among those

considerations which ought to have weight with every enlightened mind,

in determining upon the propriety of its reduction. It is asserted that

Great Britain has strengthened, and is strengthening herself in the

provinces adjoining us. Is this a moment when in prudence we ought

to disarm? No, sir. Preserve your existing force. It would be extreme

indiscretion to lessen it.

Mr. Clay here made some observations, to show that a reduction of the

army to from four to five thousand men, as had been suggested, would

not occasion such a diminution of expense as to authorize the rejection

of the report, or any essential alteration in the amount of revenue,

which the system proposes to raise from internal taxes, and his

colleague (Mr. M’Kee) appeared equally hostile to all of them. Having,

however, shown that we cannot in safety reduce the army, he would leave

the details of the report in the abler hands of the honorable chairman

(Mr. Lowndes), who, he had no doubt, could demonstrate, that with all

the retrenchments which had been recommended, the government would

be bankrupt in less than three years, if most of these taxes were

not continued. He would now hasten to that conclusion, at which the

committee could not regret more than he did, that he had not long since

arrived.

As to the attitude in which this country should be placed, the duty of

congress could not be mistaken. My policy is to preserve the present

force, naval and military; to provide for the augmentation of the navy;

and, if the danger of war should increase, to increase the army also.

Arm the militia, and give it the most effective character of which

it is susceptible. Provide in the most ample manner, and place in

proper depots, all the munitions and instruments of war. Fortify and

strengthen the weak and vulnerable points indicated by experience.

Construct military roads and canals, particularly from the Miami of

the Ohio to the Miami of Erie; from the Sciota to the bay of Sandusky;

from the Hudson to Ontario; that the facilities of transportation may

exist, of the men and means of the country, to points where they may be

wanted. I would employ on this subject a part of the army, which should

also be employed on our line of frontier, territorial and maritime, in

strengthening the works of defence. I would provide steam batteries for

the Mississippi, for Borgne and Ponchartrain, and for the Chesapeake,

and for any part of the north or east, where they might be beneficially

employed. In short, I would act seriously, effectively act, on the

principle, that in peace we ought to prepare for war; for I repeat,

again and again, that, in spite of all the prudence exerted by the

government, and the forbearance of others, the hour of trial will

come. These halcyon days of peace, this calm will yield to the storm

of war, and when that comes, I am for being prepared to breast it.

Has not the government been reproached for the want of preparation at

the commencement of the late war? And yet the same gentlemen who utter

these reproaches, instead of taking counsel from experience, would

leave the country in an unprepared condition.

He would as earnestly commence the great work, too long delayed, of

internal improvement. He desired to see a chain of turnpike roads and

canals, from Passamaquoddy to New Orleans; and other similar roads

intersecting the mountains, to facilitate intercourse between all

parts of the country, and to bind and connect us together. He would

also effectually protect our manufactories. We had given, at least,

an implied pledge to do so, by the course of administration. He would

afford them protection, not so much for the sake of the manufacturers

themselves, as for the general interest. We should thus have our wants

supplied, when foreign resources are cut off, and we should also lay

the basis of a system of taxation, to be resorted to when the revenue

from imports is stopped by war. Such, Mr. Chairman, is a rapid sketch

of the policy which it seems to me it becomes us to pursue. It is for

you now to decide, whether we shall draw wisdom from the past, or,

neglecting the lessons of recent experience, we shall go on headlong

without foresight, meriting and receiving the reproaches of the

community. I trust, sir, notwithstanding the unpromising appearances

sometimes presenting themselves, during the present session, we

shall yet do our duty. I appeal to the friends around me, with whom

I have been associated for years in public life; who nobly, manfully

vindicated the national character by a war, waged by a young people,

unskilled in arms, single-handed, against a veteran power――a war

which the nation has emerged from, covered with laurels; let us now

do something to ameliorate the internal condition of the country;

let us show that objects of domestic, no less than those of foreign

policy, receive our attention; let us fulfil the just expectations

of the public, whose eyes are anxiously directed towards this session

of congress; let us, by a liberal and enlightened policy, entitle

ourselves, upon our return home, to that best of all rewards, the

grateful exclamation, ‘well done, thou good and faithful servant.’

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