In the case of the Earl of Danby and the Popish lords then under

impeachments, the Lords,[84] on the 6th of May, 1679, appointed time and

place for hearing the Earl of Danby, by his council, upon the validity

of his plea of pardon, and for the trials of the other lords, and voted

an address to his Majesty, praying that he would be pleased to appoint

an High Steward for those purposes. These votes were, on the next day,

communicated to the Commons by message in the usual manner. On the 8th,

at a conference between the Houses upon the subject-matter of that

message, the Commons expressed themselves to the following

effect:--"They cannot apprehend what should induce your Lordships to

address his Majesty for an High Steward, for determining the validity of

the pardon which hath been pleaded by the Earl of Danby, as also for the

trial of the other five lords, because they conceive the constituting

an High Steward is not necessary, but that judgment may be given in

Parliament upon impeachment without an High Steward"; and concluded with

a proposition, that, for avoiding any interruption or delay, a committee

of both Houses might be nominated, to consider of the most proper ways

and methods of proceeding. This proposition the House of Peers, after a

long debate, rejected: _Dissentientibus_, Finch,[85] Chancellor, and

many other lords. However, on the 11th, the Commons' proposition of the

8th was upon a second debate agreed to; and the Lord Chancellor, Lord

President, and ten other lords, were named of the committee, to meet and

confer with a committee of the Commons. The next day the Lord President

reported, that the committees of both Houses met that morning, and made

an entrance into the business referred to them: that the Commons desired

to see the commissions that are prepared for an High Steward at these

trials, and also the commissions in the Lord Pembroke's and the Lord

Morley's cases: that to this the Lords' committees said,--"_The High

Steward is but Speaker pro tempore, and giveth his vote as well as the

other lords; this changeth not the nature of the court_; and the Lords

declared, they have power enough to proceed to trial, though the King

should not name an High Steward:[86] that this seemed to be a

satisfaction to the Commons, provided it was entered in the Lords'

Journals, which are records." Accordingly, on the same day, "_It is

declared and ordered by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament

assembled, that the office of an High Steward, upon trials of peers upon

impeachments, is not necessary to the House of Peers; but that the Lords

may proceed in such trials, if an High Steward be not appointed

according to their humble desire._"[87] On the 13th the Lord President

reported, that the committees of both Houses had met that morning, and

discoursed, in the first place, on the matter of a Lord High Steward,

and had perused former commissions for the office of High Steward; and

then, putting the House in mind of the order and resolution of the

preceding day, proposed from the committees that a new commission might

issue, so as the words in the commission may be thus changed: viz.,

Instead of, _Ac pro eo quod officium Seneschalli Angliæ, (cujus

præsentia in hac parte requiritur,) ut accepimus, jam vacat_, may be

inserted, _Ac pro eo quod proceres et magnates in Parliamento nostro

assemblati nobis humiliter supplicaverunt ut Seneschallum Angliæ pro hac

vice constituere dignaremur_: to which the House agreed.[88]

It must be admitted that precedents drawn from times of ferment and

jealousy, as these were, lose much of their weight, since passion and

party prejudice generally mingle in the contest; yet let it be

remembered, that these are resolutions in which both Houses concurred,

and in which the rights of both were thought to be very nearly

concerned,--the Commons' right of impeaching with effect, and the whole

judicature of the Lords in capital cases. For, if the appointment of an

High Steward was admitted to be of absolute necessity, (however

necessary it may be for the regularity and solemnity of the proceeding

during the trial and until judgment, which I do not dispute,) every

impeachment may, for a reason too obvious to be mentioned, be rendered

ineffectual, and the judicature of the Lords in all capital cases

nugatory.

It was from a jealousy of this kind, not at that juncture altogether

groundless, and to guard against everything from whence the necessity of

an High Steward in the case of an impeachment might be inferred, that

the Commons proposed and the Lords readily agreed to the amendment in

the Steward's commission which I have already stated. And it hath, I

confess, great weight with me, that this amendment, which was at the

same time directed in the cases of the five Popish lords, when

commissions should pass for their trials, hath taken place in every

commission upon impeachments for treason since that time.[89] And I

cannot help remarking, that in the case of Lord Lovat, when neither the

heat of the times nor the jealousy of parties had any share in the

proceeding, the House ordered, "That the commission for appointing a

Lord High Steward shall be in the like form as that for the trial of the

Lord Viscount Stafford, as entered in the Journal of this House on the

30th of November, 1680: except that the same shall be in the English

language."[90]

I will make a short observation on this matter. The order, on the 13th

of May, 1679, for varying the form of the commission, was, as appeareth

by the Journal, plainly made in consequence of the resolution of the

12th, and was founded on it; and consequently the constant, unvarying

practice with regard to the new form goeth, in my opinion, a great way

towards showing, that, in the sense of all succeeding times, that

resolution was not the result of faction or a blamable jealousy, but was

founded in sound reason and true policy. It may be objected, that the

resolution of the 12th of May, 1679, goeth no further than to a

proceeding upon impeachment. The letter of the resolution, it is

admitted, goeth no further. But this is easily accounted for: a

proceeding by impeachment was the subject-matter of the conference, and

the Commons had no pretence to interpose in any other. But what say the

Lords? _The High Steward is but as a Speaker or Chairman pro tempore,

for the more orderly proceeding at the trials; the appointment of him

doth not alter the nature of the court, which still remaineth the Court

of the Peers in Parliament._ From these premises they draw the

conclusion I have mentioned. Are not these premises equally true in the

case of a proceeding upon indictment? They undoubtedly are.

It must likewise be admitted, that in the proceeding upon indictment the

High Steward's commission hath never varied from the ancient form in

such cases. The words objected to by the Commons, _Ac pro eo quod

officium Seneschalli Angliæ, (cujus præsentia in hac parte requiritur,)

ut accepimus, jam vacat_, are still retained; but this proveth no more

than that the Great Seal, having no authority to vary in point of form,

hath from time to time very prudently followed ancient precedents.

I have already stated the substance of the commission in a proceeding in

the Court of the High Steward. I will now state the substance of that in

a proceeding in the Court of the Peers in Parliament; and shall make use

of that in the case of the Earl of Kilmarnock and others, as being the

latest, and in point of form agreeing with the former precedents. The

commission, after reciting that William, Earl of Kilmarnock, &c., stand

indicted before commissioners of gaol-delivery in the County of Surrey,

for high treason, in levying war against the King, and that the King

intendeth that the said William, Earl of Kilmarnock, &c., shall be

heard, examined, sentenced, and adjudged before himself, in this present

Parliament, touching the said treason, and for that the office of

Steward of Great Britain (whose presence is required upon this

occasion) is now vacant, as we are informed, appointeth the then Lord

Chancellor Steward of Great Britain, to bear, execute, and exercise (for

this time) the said office, with all things due and belonging to the

same office, in that behalf.

What, therefore, are the things due and belonging to the office in a

case of this kind? Not, as in the Court of the High Steward, a right of

judicature; for the commission itself supposeth that right to reside in

a court then subsisting before the King in Parliament. The parties are

to be there heard, sentenced, and adjudged. What share in the proceeding

doth the High Steward, then, take? By the practice and usage of the

Court of the Peers in Parliament, he giveth his vote as a member

thereof, with the rest of the peers; but, for the sake of regularity and

order, he presideth during the trial and until judgment, as Chairman or

Speaker _pro tempore_. In that respect, therefore, it may be properly

enough said, that his presence is required during the trial and until

judgment, and in no other. Herein I see no difference between the case

of an impeachment and of an indictment. I say, during the time of the

trial and until judgment; because the court hath, as I observed before,

from time to time done various acts, plainly judicial, before the

appointment of an High Steward, and where no High Steward hath ever been

appointed, and even after the commission dissolved. I will to this

purpose cite a few cases.

I begin with the latest, because they are the latest, and were ruled

with great deliberation, and for the most part upon a view of former

precedents. In the case of the Earl of Kilmarnock and others, the Lords,

on the 24th of June, 1746, ordered that a writ or writs of _Certiorari_

be issued for removing the indictments before the House; and on the

26th, the writ, which is made returnable before the King in Parliament,

with the return and indictments, was received and read. On the next day,

upon the report of the Lords' committees, that they had been attended

by the two Chief-Justices and Chief-Baron, and had heard them touching

the construction of the act of the 7th and 8th of King William, "for

regulating trials in cases of high treason and misprision of treason,"

the House, upon reading the report, came to several resolutions, founded

for the most part on the construction of that act. What that

construction was appeareth from the Lord High Steward's address to the

prisoners just before their arraignment. Having mentioned that act as

one happy consequence of the Revolution, he addeth,--"However

injuriously that revolution hath been traduced, whatever attempts have

been made to subvert this happy establishment founded on it, your

Lordships will now have the benefit of that law in its full extent."

I need not, after this, mention any other judicial acts done by the

House in this case, before the appointment of the High Steward: many

there are. For the putting a construction upon an act relative to the

conduct of the court and the right of the subject at the trial, and in

the proceedings preparatory to it, and this in a case entirely new, and

upon a point, to say no more in this place, not extremely clear, was

undoubtedly an exercise of authority proper only for a court having full

cognizance of the cause.

I will not minutely enumerate the several orders made preparatory to the

trial of Lord Lovat, and in the several cases I shall have occasion to

mention, touching the time and place of the trial, the allowance or

non-allowance of council, and other matters of the like kind, all

plainly judicial; because the like orders occur in all the cases where a

journal of the preparatory steps hath been published by order of the

Peers. With regard to Lord Lovat's case, I think the order directing the

form of the High Steward's commission, which I have already taken notice

of, is not very consistent with the idea of a court whose powers can be

supposed to depend, at any point of time, upon the existence or

dissolution of that commission.

In the case of the Earl of Derwentwater and the other lords impeached at

the same time, the House received and recorded the confessions of those

of them who pleaded guilty, long before the _teste_ of the High

Steward's commission, which issued merely for the solemnity of giving

judgment against them upon their conviction. This appeareth by the

commission itself. It reciteth, that the Earl of Derwentwater and

others, _coram nobis in præsenti Parliamento_, had been impeached by the

Commons for high treason, and had, _coram nobis in præsenti

Parliamento_, pleaded guilty to that impeachment; and that the King,

intending that the said Earl of Derwentwater and others, _de et pro

proditione unde ipsi ut præfertur impetit', accusat', et convict'

existunt coram nobis in præsenti Parliamento, secundum legem et

consuetudinem hujus regni nostri Magnæ Britanniæ, audientur,

sententientur, et adjudicentur_, constituteth the then Lord Chancellor

High Steward (_hac vice_) to do and execute all things which to the

office of High Steward in that behalf do belong. The receiving and

recording the confession of the prisoners, which amounted to a

conviction, so that nothing remained but proceeding to judgment, was

certainly an exercise of judicial authority, which no assembly, how

great soever, not having full cognizance of the cause, could exercise.

In the case of Lord Salisbury, who had been impeached by the Commons for

high treason, the Lords, upon his petition, allowed him the benefit of

the act of general pardon passed in the second year of William and Mary,

so far as to discharge him from his imprisonment, upon a construction

they put upon that act, no High Steward ever having been appointed in

that case. On the 2d of October, 1690, upon reading the Earl's petition,

setting forth that he had been a prisoner for a year and nine months in

the Tower, notwithstanding the late act of free and general pardon, and

praying to be discharged, the Lords ordered the Judges to attend on the

Monday following, to give their opinions whether the said Earl be

pardoned by the act. On the 6th the Judges delivered their opinions,

that, if his offence was committed before the 13th of February, 1688,

and not in Ireland or beyond the seas, he is pardoned. Whereupon it was

ordered that he be admitted to bail, and the next day he and his

sureties entered into a recognizance of bail, himself in ten thousand

pounds, and two sureties in five thousand pounds each; and on the 30th

he and his sureties were, after a long debate, discharged from their

recognizance.[91] It will not be material to inquire whether the House

did right in discharging the Earl without giving the Commons an

opportunity of being heard; since, in fact, they claimed and exercised a

right of judicature without an High Steward,--which is the only use I

make of this case.

They did the same in the case of the Earl of Carnwarth, the Lords

Widdrington and Nairn, long after the High Steward's commission

dissolved. These lords had judgment passed on them at the same time

that judgment was given against the Lords Derwentwater, Nithsdale, and

Kenmure; and judgment being given, the High Steward immediately broke

his staff, and declared the commission dissolved. They continued

prisoners in the Tower under reprieves, till the passing the act of

general pardon, in the 3d of King George I. On the 21st of November,

1717, the House being informed that these lords had severally entered

into recognizances before one of the judges of the Court of King's Bench

for their appearance in the House in this session of Parliament, and

that the Lords Carnwarth and Widdrington were attending accordingly, and

that the Lord Nairn was ill at Bath and could not then attend, the Lords

Carnwarth and Widdrington were called in, and severally at the bar

prayed that their appearance might be recorded; and likewise prayed the

benefit of the act[92] for his Majesty's general and free pardon.

Whereupon the House ordered that their appearance be recorded, and that

they attend again to-morrow, in order to plead the pardon; and the

recognizance of the Lord Nairn was respited till that day fortnight. On

the morrow the Lords Carnwarth and Widdrington, then attending, were

called in; and the Lord Chancellor acquainted them severally, that it

appeared by the records of the House that they severally stood attainted

of high treason, and asked them severally what they had to say why they

should not be remanded to the Tower of London. Thereupon they severally,

upon their knees, prayed the benefit of the act, and that they might

have their lives and liberty pursuant thereunto. And the

Attorney-General, who then attended for that purpose, declaring that he

had no objection on his Majesty's behalf to what was prayed, conceiving

that those lords, not having made any escape since their conviction,

were entitled to the benefit of the act, the House, after reading the

clause in the act relating to that matter,[93] agreed that they should

be allowed the benefit of the pardon, as to their lives and liberties,

and discharged their recognizances, and gave them leave to depart

without further day given for their appearance. On the 6th of December

following, the like proceedings were had, and the like orders made, in

the case of Lord Nairn.[94]

I observe that the Lord Chancellor did not ask these lords what they had

to say why execution should not be awarded. There was, it is probable,

some little delicacy as to that point. But since the allowance of the

benefit of the act, as to life and liberty, which was all that was

prayed, was an effectual bar to any future imprisonment on that account,

and also to execution, and might have been pleaded as such in any court

whatsoever, the whole proceeding must be admitted to have been in a

court having complete jurisdiction in the case, notwithstanding the High

Steward's commission had been long dissolved,--which is all the use I

intended to make of this case.

I will not recapitulate: the cases I have cited, and the conclusions

drawn from them, are brought into a very narrow compass. I will only

add, that it would sound extremely harsh to say, that a court of

criminal jurisdiction, founded in immemorial usage, and held in judgment

of law before the King himself, can in any event whatever be under an

utter incapacity of proceeding to trial and judgment, either of

condemnation or acquittal, the ultimate objects of every criminal

proceeding, without certain supplemental powers derived from the Crown.

These cases, with the observations I have made on them, I hope

sufficiently warrant the opinion of the Judges upon that part of the

second question, in the case of the late Earl Ferrers, which I have

already mentioned,--and also what was advanced by the Lord Chief-Baron

in his argument on that question,--"That, though the office of High

Steward should happen to determine before execution done according to

the judgment, yet the Court of the Peers in Parliament, where that

judgment was given, would subsist for all the purposes of justice during

the sitting of the Parliament," and consequently, that, in the case

supposed by the question, that court might appoint a new day for the

execution.

No. II.

Questions referred by the Lords to the Judges, in the Impeachment

of Warren Hastings, Esquire, and the Answers of the

Judges.--Extracted from the Lords' Journals and Minutes.

_First._

_Question._--Whether, when a witness produced and examined in a criminal

proceeding by a prosecutor disclaims all knowledge of any matter so

interrogated, it be competent for such prosecutor to pursue such

examination, by proposing a question containing the particulars of an

answer supposed to have been made by such witness before a committee of

the House of Commons, or in any other place, and by demanding of him

whether the particulars so suggested were not the answer he had so made?

1788, February 29.--Pa. 418.

* * * * *

_Answer._--The Lord Chief-Baron of the Court of Exchequer delivered the

unanimous opinion of the Judges upon the question of law put to them on

Friday, the 29th of February last, as follows:--"That, when a witness

produced and examined in a criminal proceeding by a prosecutor disclaims

all knowledge of any matter so interrogated, it is not competent for

such prosecutor to pursue such examination, by proposing a question

containing the particulars of an answer supposed to have been made by

such witness before a committee of the House of Commons, or in any other

place, and by demanding of him whether the particulars so suggested were

not the answer he had so made."

1788, April 10.--Pa. 592.

_Second._

_Question._--Whether it be competent for the Managers to produce an

examination taken without oath by the rest of the Council in the absence

of Mr. Hastings, the Governor-General, charging Mr. Hastings with

corruptly receiving 3,54,105 rupees, which examination came to his

knowledge, and was by him transmitted to the Court of Directors as a

proceeding of the said Councillors, in order to introduce the proof of

his demeanor thereupon,--it being alleged by the Managers for the

Commons, that he took no steps to clear himself, in the opinion of the

said Directors, of the guilt thereby imputed, but that he took active

means to prevent the examination by the said Councillors of his servant

Cantoo Baboo?

1789, May 14--Pa. 677.

* * * * *

_Answer._--The Lord Chief-Baron of the Court of Exchequer delivered the

unanimous opinion of the Judges upon the said question, in the

negative,--and gave his reasons.

1789, May 20.--Pa. 718.

_Third._

_Question._--Whether the instructions from the Court of Directors of the

United Company of Merchants of England trading to the East Indies, to

Warren Hastings, Esquire, Governor-General, Lieutenant-General John

Clavering, the Honorable George Monson, Richard Barwell, Esquire, and

Philip Francis, Esquire, Councillors, (constituted and appointed the

Governor-General and Council of the said United Company's Presidency of

Fort William in Bengal, by an act of Parliament passed in the last

session, intituled, "An act for establishing certain regulations for the

better management of the affairs of the East India Company, as well in

India as in Europe,") of the 29th of March, 1774, Par. 31, 32, and 35,

the Consultation of the 11th March, 1775, the Consultation of the 13th

of March, 1775, up to the time that Mr. Hastings left the Council, the

Consultation of the 20th of March, 1775, the letter written by Mr.

Hastings to the Court of Directors on the 25th of March, 1775, (it being

alleged that Mr. Hastings took no steps to explain or defend his

conduct,) are sufficient to introduce the examination of Nundcomar, or

the proceedings of the rest of the Councillors, on said 13th of March,

after Mr. Hastings left the Council,--such examination and proceedings

charging Mr. Hastings with, corruptly receiving 3,54,105 rupees?

1789, May 21.--Pa. 730.

* * * * *

_Answer._--The Lord Chief-Baron of the Court of Exchequer delivered the

unanimous opinion of the Judges upon the said question, in the

negative,--and gave his reasons.

1789, May 27.--Pa. 771.

_Fourth._

_Question._--Whether the public accounts of the Nizamut and Bhela, under

the seal of the Begum, attested also by the Nabob, and transmitted by

Mr. Goring to the Board of Council at Calcutta, in a letter bearing date

the 29th June, 1775, received by them, recorded without objection on the

part of Mr. Hastings, and transmitted by him likewise without objection

to the Court of Directors, and alleged to contain accounts of money

received by Mr. Hastings,--and it being in proof, that Mr. Hastings, on

the 11th of May, 1778, moved the Board to comply with the requisitions

of the Nabob Mobarek ul Dowlah to reappoint the Munny Begum and Rajah

Gourdas (who made up those accounts) to the respective offices they

before filled, and which was accordingly resolved by the Board,--ought

to be read?

1789, June 17.--Pa. 855.

* * * * *

_Answer._--The Lord Chief-Baron of the Court of Exchequer delivered the

unanimous opinion of the Judges upon the said question, in the

negative,--and gave his reasons.

1789, June 24.--Pa. 922.

_Fifth._

_Question._--Whether the paper delivered by Sir Elijah Impey, on the 7th

of July, 1775, in the Supreme Court, to the Secretary of the Supreme

Council, in order to be transmitted to the Council as the resolution of

the Court in respect to the claim made for Roy Rada Churn, on account of

his being vakeel of the Nabob Mobarek ul Dowlah,--and which paper was

the subject of the deliberation of the Council on the 31st July, 1775,

Mr. Hastings being then present, and was by them transmitted to the

Court of Directors, as a ground for such instructions from the Court of

Directors as the occasion might seem to require,--may be admitted as

evidence of the actual state and situation of the Nabob with reference

to the English government?

1789, July 2.--Pa. 1001.

* * * * *

_Answer._--The Lord Chief-Baron of the Court of Exchequer delivered the

unanimous opinion of the Judges upon the said question, in the

affirmative,--and gave his reasons.

1789, July 7.--Pa. 1030.

_Sixth._

_Question._--Whether it be or be not competent to the Managers for the

Commons to give evidence upon the charge in the sixth article, to prove

that the rent, at which the defendant, Warren Hastings, let the lands

mentioned in the said sixth article of charge to Kelleram, fell into

arrear and was deficient,--and whether, if proof were offered, that the

rent fell in arrear immediately after the letting, the evidence would in

that case be competent?

1790, April 22.--Pa. 364.

* * * * *

_Answer._--The lord Chief-Baron of the Court of Exchequer delivered the

unanimous opinion of the Judges upon the said question,--"That it is not

competent to the Managers for the Commons to give evidence upon the

charge in the sixth article, to prove that the rent, at which the

defendant, Warren Hastings, let the lands mentioned in the said sixth

article of charge to Kelleram, fell into arrear and was deficient,"--and

gave his reasons.

1790, April 27.--Pa. 388.

_Seventh._

_Question._--Whether it be competent for the Managers for the Commons to

put the following question to the witness, upon the sixth article of

charge, viz.: "What impression the letting of the lands to Kelleram and

Cullian Sing made on the minds of the inhabitants of that country"?

1790, April 27.--Pa. 391.

* * * * *

_Answer._--The Lord Chief-Baron of the Court of Exchequer delivered the

unanimous opinion of the Judges upon the said question,--"That it is not

competent to the Managers for the Commons to put the following question

to the witness, upon the sixth article of charge, viz.: What impression,

the letting of the lands to Kelleram and Cullian Sing made on the minds

of the inhabitants of that country,"--and gave his reasons.

1790, April 29.--Pa. 413.

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